You guys are ignoring my posts are you bloody seriouse ? I already responded to that.
Sorry. Where/when did you respond?
(January 6th, 2013, 17:37)novice Wrote: I think Uberfish deserves a village lean though for his IMO good content and for being onto Bigger early on.
Good content,yes.
Don't think the Bigger vote matters thpugh.
(January 6th, 2013, 17:37)Ryan Wrote:
(January 6th, 2013, 17:33)novice Wrote: Scumhunting. As always I would look for people trying to keep their nose clean. I don't think we'll find many scum at the center of the Fool controversy. Although Uberfish and Selrahc would both find it easy to argue convincingly and honestly for my point of view, and thus associate themselves with a villager (me) on a mislynch wagon.
Bigger fits the first profile, and I think we have more like him. I don't know who though. I could throw out a vote but it would be fairly random at this point. I guess I'll vote Lewwyn just so I can lynch him in good conscience later when he's sleeping.
You have Matt , you have water who barley wrote anything. Can you explain why you ignored those obvious two and went for lewwyn ,
Why are they obvious?
Yes Bigger lurked a lost, but there's nothing to say a scum would. Generally scum just try to play as they normally would - last game I was the most active player (by % of votes at time of my lynch) and scum.
Lynching lurkers is good policy, IMO, but often bad play.
I also find Lewwyn slightly fishy.
(January 6th, 2013, 17:56)Ryan Wrote: Should I honestly stop posting ? It's like they are being skipped . Q didn't even notice I responded to his quote.
I was AFK sorry.
(January 6th, 2013, 18:09)Mattimeo Wrote: I was thinking that the night developments didn't necessarily clear novice, since getting the scum with the card to pass it to whoever novice said he was passing to seemed the best thing for a scum-novice to do. Then I recalled seeing something from BRick along the lines of scum being unable to pass items to people they were attempting to kill. Don't have a source for that - no time to go looking at the moment - and it might have only been applicable to the lockpick, but if someone finds it, it'd pretty much confirm novice as town (if we assume Serdoa is being truthful about possessing a vest that got shot).
(January 6th, 2013, 17:47)zakalwe Wrote: Mattimeo hasn't done much so far, and he supported Bigger as mayor back here:
Gee, thanks for using arguments it's actually possible to defend against, there...
Good point there.
I also don't find the mayor vote scummy - he was hardly pushing for it, and mayors are generally under a lot of scrutiny.
[CONSPIRACY THEORY: a fool card Bigger plus Novice (/maybe serdoa?) as scum???]
Fake edit: he didn't have the card. Disregard.
(January 6th, 2013, 18:17)novice Wrote: ...
Yeah that's true, I was going to bring that up if my pass target was killed. I failed to realize it would apply to failed kills as well.
That's protown of you to bring up. So Serdoa is almost-confirmed, and if he's town then I'm confirmed.
Scum foregoing a night kill is possible, but unlikely. But it could be a gambit to get all the town power roles to pass their items to him. I think scum are unlikely to start with the vest though - lynchproof scum is quite powerful.
If serdoa is scum then obviously they don't have the gun...
Fake edit: ah you mean because a villager would claim. Good point - but I think he randomized where the roles landed.
(January 6th, 2013, 18:25)uberfish Wrote: Good job Serdoa. I think bigger's scum flip implicates tasunke as his partner:
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(This is posted about 7 hours before deadline and he proceeds to lurk out the day)
note that:
- Bigger was active lurking waiting to see which way things would swing in the middle of the day. This points towards a scum as one of the 3 leading wagons at that point. (rowain 5 - tasunke 4 - novice 3)
- Although bigger started off attacking Tasunke, when he was active lurking in the middle of the day he said nothing at all about Tasunke. This makes more sense if he's scum trying to avoid actively drawing more heat onto his partner.
- If tasunke and rowain were both village, Bigger could just have made some further comments attacking Tasunke, parked his vote on Tasunke, and avoided any blame for Rowain's mislynch.
- Concerning tasunke's early vote on bigger: he votes bigger for lurking in exactly one post, and does not mention him at all subsequently despite the fact that he is still lurking (calling out Azza and Waterbat for lurking during night phase instead.) This vote actually makes it MORE likely that he is scum with bigger, and not less.
Also this post is suspicious as hell.
tasunke #539 Wrote:Fairly. Certain I won't get vig killed wink
But simply saying that might get me night killed by ze wolves :X
Anyways, totally unrelated, can we agree on either azza or water at to get shot tonight?
Again good points.
I think I'll stick with Tasunke unless I hear a powerful claim.
(January 6th, 2013, 18:35)uberfish Wrote: To expand further on that: Tasunke's soft claiming that he's either the vig or the bulletproof. Bulletproof is accounted for and he's clearly not the vig because he didn't shoot either of the people he wanted to be killed. This means that he's probably just lying.
Or seer... thats what I was betting on.
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Tasunke needs to explain himself. He's alluded to having an item, but the ones he was strongly suggesting (gun and vest) are, at best, extremely unlikely in the case of the gun, and as good as impossible in the case of the vest, to have been in his possession.
I don't like giving Sarlharc and waterbat free pases when they aren't responding . I can see the point with Tasunke but I am not convinced enough to change my vote especially when the two of them aren't responding.
@Q I already wrote and copied why I Think waterbat deserves a lynch several times now. I responded to that vote of yours when you voted me within 2 pages after you voted me. I am not going to go back and copy because this is getting ridiculous I am not gonna spend my entire time recoppying stuff I wrote just for you to read when you should have read it . I didn't spend my time writing this stuff for it to not be read or ignored and then people responding as if I didn't write anything. You probably didn't go back to see if I responded. This is the last post I'm writing.
I'm sorry if you think this is me being a dick, but I've been back and looked at your posts between my first vote and my "in cas you missed it", and I cannot for the life of me see where you responded.
Sorry
Heres your posts, so if you'd care to point it out...
(January 6th, 2013, 17:17)Ryan Wrote:
(January 6th, 2013, 17:12)Selrahc Wrote:
(January 6th, 2013, 17:06)Serdoa Wrote: Vest got shot, I am still alive. If that was the Vig I will be pissed.
How could it possibly have been the vig? The vig must have shot bigger.
That was before the announcement and he said IF , and no you didn't answer me since I wrote a lot more then that and you changed your Vigi shot opinion a 3rd time after my post to its risky . I don't believe you and btw you and the other Afk with water in his name . You have my voteSelrahc
(January 6th, 2013, 17:21)Ryan Wrote:
(January 6th, 2013, 17:18)Qgqqqqq Wrote: @novice: Isn't the gun passed the day it is used?
I think the same night but that's a good question that means there's a no Vigi kill every second night. Btw that vote on me makes zero sense. No new information is put about me and I answered every question asked against me unlike other people which it feels like you are ignoring.
(January 6th, 2013, 17:24)Ryan Wrote: @waterbat I am still waiting for an explanation about what I asked about you.
(January 6th, 2013, 17:30)Ryan Wrote: The day starts right away ya ?
Thanks
I'm not trying to ignore you.
I also don't see your waterbat reasoning, but I'm not going to make you traawl back through it - maybe you could summarize for me?
Ah Azza yeah that feels pretty conclusive - I'd missed it.
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I think a lot of things revolve around uberfish's identity...
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I believe that Tasunke is innocent. The voting at the end of the last day suggests to me that scum didn't care which of the two got lynched. I think someone who switched away from Rowain when it didn't make a difference is pretty scummy. So who's the last person to vote for Tasunke?
Zak and when asked about it:
(January 5th, 2013, 17:05)zakalwe Wrote:
(January 5th, 2013, 17:01)novice Wrote:
(January 5th, 2013, 16:54)zakalwe Wrote: Tasunke
Why this switch, Zak?
Eh, I figured if Tasunke got lynched by a quick late run that might be a good thing after all.
What's the final tally?
Really Zak? REALLY??
“The wind went mute and the trees in the forest stood still. It was time for the last tale.”
he didn't have the card. Disregard.
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