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have you considered that i believe tasunke made the right move? More than that, his reveal proves to me that i was right about my read both on him and of the situation at the ened of day 1? Have you considered that i`ve had a pretty shit run of reads in my past few villager games and i`m excited that i`m right and don`t have to go back on my read and lynch tasunke because he lied about having an item?
I`m just happy to be right. And i don`t have to worry about fucking up any power roles either. I wasn`t lying earlier about missing WW. I just feel pretty good.
Now all of thos things you`ve listed i actually read as village lean. I told you thought you were villager already but your about face was pretty off. I`m satisfied with your answer.
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as for what else you`ve done that`s pro-town, you`re fight with bigger during the night, and your reasonableness not to get too caught up in meta, and your pout night 1, and your overall scummhunting tone similar to that last WW 17 was it where i ended up lynching you losing the game.
If you are implying that i `know` you`re innocent you`re wrong i don`t know for sure, but hopefully the above reasons make sense to you.
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Yeah, that was exactly what I was implying.
So help me understand why this is the right play by Tasunke and I shouldn't be as pissed at him as I am?
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no one is confirmed, but my villager lean list includes:
Serdoa
Novice
Tasunke
Pindi
Qg
Ryan
Mero
basically the list of people I currently `trust` in descending order.
Btw i`m just sitting here onm y phone for two hours with nothing else to do while i watch students take examms...
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what else is he supposed to say? I have an item but I can`t claim it cuz I didn`t pass it? And then what? He gets attacked all day for it and eventually HAS to claim to prevent a mislynch. Meanwhile we`ve already wasted almost the whole day distracted by him and trying to get him to give up the ghost. Or eat the mislynch. What else? What else is there? He can`t lie at this point. He simply can`t. wolves would have pounced, and in fact i think they may already have. Lazy villagers will just vote for him because its tas and he`s good target anyway. I don`t see what else he could do.
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(January 6th, 2013, 17:44)waterbat Wrote: @village: there is the possibility that a scum holds the vest and they decided not to night kill. I know likelihood of thus is low, but wouldn't be granting confirmed status because of it. Let serdoa pick out all the scum and lets lynch them as proof of alignment.
Thats interesting. But why should scum forego its nightkill and have me claim the vest? That would be wasting a night for nothing. We have no role to save me, so at best I leave through N3, because N2 they probably go for Tasunke. Well or maybe not. In general village is more likely to shoot themselves than scum, so maybe they will kill me N2 and hope for Tas to get lynched the next day.
Anyhow, what really is interesting is your last sentence: "Let Serdoa pick out all the scum and lets lynch them as proof of alignment". Just because I am a confirmed (mostly) villager does not make me know for certain who are the wolves. Making this suggestion was so extremely anti-town of you waterbat, that I wonder that no one even picked up on it. Anyhow
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(January 6th, 2013, 20:02)Merovech Wrote: I think a lot of things revolve around uberfish's identity...
(January 7th, 2013, 00:33)Merovech Wrote: Hmm. Obviously, this makes Waterbat look bad, although I'm keeping my vote on uberfish. I also don't want to forget about Selrahc. I mostly voted for him because I really didn't want to see Rowain hang, but he didn't exactly give me an innocent vibe, and he seems to have slipped off the radar.
Merovech, plese explain WHICH things revolve around uberfishs identity, you unfortunately were very unspecific.
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So you think it's better that Tasunke save himself from a mislynch and accept the fact that if the wolves have a picklock that we're gonna see two more dead villagers than we need to? And that's just peachy?
What, have you just decided to go stupid all over again Lewwyn? Is this WW17 all over again? Cause if it is, I'll just self-vote and get it over with early.
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(January 7th, 2013, 02:12)pindicator Wrote: So you think it's better that Tasunke save himself from a mislynch and accept the fact that if the wolves have a picklock that we're gonna see two more dead villagers than we need to? And that's just peachy?
Pindi, yes, if the wolves have the picklock, we will see two more dead villagers. Than lets hope we have the cloak and catch them in the act of stealing from Tas, lynching the stealer already the next day. I mean, you can make this game indefinitely about who has which item and could do what potentiall with it.
And yes, his claim might not have been the best idea. I doubt though that most villagers would realize that even. You just feel good that you killed a wolf and you don't want to get lynched over it. I can certainly understand that, even if it is not the optimal play.
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(January 7th, 2013, 02:12)pindicator Wrote: So you think it's better that Tasunke save himself from a mislynch and accept the fact that if the wolves have a picklock that we're gonna see two more dead villagers than we need to? And that's just peachy?
What, have you just decided to go stupid all over again Lewwyn? Is this WW17 all over again? Cause if it is, I'll just self-vote and get it over with early.
I think thats what i`m saying. What the fuck are you saying? Why is it a foregone conclusion that scum picklock the gun? Why is it foregone that the watcher is a snitch? Why is it foregone that we won`t lynch the lockpicks? Why are you suggesting we lynch a villager on purpose? Not to lose? This is the same fucking stupid ass argument as the foool card. Lets lynch novice so the card doesn`t get loose! Don`t be so defeatist. Don`t get so caught up what scum might do with lockpicks.
If we lynch tas and then the wolvs kill again then whoopsie two dead villagers same fucking result as the gun. Say they do lock pick. That means we have today and tmr to lynch the lockpick. By revealing tas has increased our odds by shrinking the suspect pool. This is the superior play to basically lynching oneself...
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And one last (but IMPORTANT) thing: Why is novice considered semi-confirmed with me? Has anyone of you actually read the rules? Because I sure have been gone back to them right now, and the only rule about item-passing for the night that I could find is
Quote:3. Snitches cannot pass items to another Snitch if that will knowingly lead to a Snitch having more than one item. For Example, if BRickAstley is a snitch and has the Crowbar, and Mardoc is a snitch and has the Lockpick, BRick cannot pass the Crowbar to Mardoc if Mardoc keeps the Lockpick.
I can't find anything that snitches are not allowed to pass their item to the villager they are nightkilling. Would those claiming that, like novice himself, care to provide the actual quote in the rules?
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