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WW 19 Game Thread - Mobster Mayhem - GAME OVER

(January 7th, 2013, 10:51)Ryan Wrote: MJW I just wanna understand something. Why wont you got for waterbat or why is my argument not that important in your eyes? just for my understanding. I am happy with selrahc or wasterbat lynch but I dont understand why there isnt really any focus on what I post argument wise.

Waterbat is quite scummy. There was one game back were everyone thought he was a wolf but he was not.

I need to think who I will vote for after Tasunke was shown to be a lying villager. I just needed to dump my vote on someone so I'll dump it on waterbat to put some pressure on him.
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(January 7th, 2013, 10:54)pindicator Wrote: Also Azza - what was your reasoning behind using the picklock on Tasunke? I think that's a very high risk / low reward item to use, especially if you steal from a snitch.

Good question.
I have to run.
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(January 7th, 2013, 11:13)novice Wrote:
(January 7th, 2013, 10:54)pindicator Wrote: Also Azza - what was your reasoning behind using the picklock on Tasunke? I think that's a very high risk / low reward item to use, especially if you steal from a snitch.

Good question.

Really good.

Azza
“The wind went mute and the trees in the forest stood still. It was time for the last tale.”
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(January 7th, 2013, 10:23)waterbat Wrote: I was going to also lie and counterclaim the gun against tasunke! Because I thought he was lying and I could protect the gun owner. If he was telling the truth, I could protect him from night kill. I couldn't work out to protect him and I both from lynch though.

Let me get this straight: You intended to lie and counterclaim against Tasunke - what most certainly would have gotten him lynched. And then you claim that if he had said the truth your lie would have protected him from the night-kill. How? Because he would have been lynched dead already?

I think a wolf tripped here, trying to get village-brownie-points.

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Holy hell a day vig. And he kills before even half the day is up? Slightly fucking pissed. Just recovered from 100 fever, from a bad bug/virus. Past 38 hours have been HELL for me. Guess I'll just talk in the lurker thread then. Go village!
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(January 7th, 2013, 11:13)novice Wrote:
(January 7th, 2013, 10:54)pindicator Wrote: Also Azza - what was your reasoning behind using the picklock on Tasunke? I think that's a very high risk / low reward item to use, especially if you steal from a snitch.

Good question.

Not really imo. I'll let Azza answer that, but I think the reasoning is obvious.
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Thanks MJW. I'm always a nice dumping ground for votes. As stated the only defense I had planned was a fake claim against tasunke's.

@ryan. Here is a post count link for ww15:

http://realmsbeyond.net/forums/misc.php?...d&tid=5356

Based on that, who's more likely to be scum? Certainly not waterbat at the top o the list, right?

I've answered why I was lurking. Didn't have much to add. Please let me know what you want me to answer.

@mjw: didn't you also vote Rowain? You want to be 3/3 killing villagers?
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We have the following items in play, and no more. I speculated a bit on which team has which items. Should we consider a mass claim? I guess not, to protect our watcher?

Ouija Board (Seer) - village
Crowbar (Item Seer) - scum -
Black Cloak (Watcher) - village -
Hold-Out Pistol (Vigilante) - village -
Gas Can (Bomb) - scum -
Lockpick & Gloves (Thief) - village? - Azza
Fool Tarot Card (Miller) - village - novice/serdoa
Fake Wooden Arm (Doublevote) - village -
Parchment & Disappearing Ink (Tablet) - Scum -
Padlock & Key (Jailer) - Scum - Bigger
Silk Bulletproof Vest (1-Shot Bulletproof) - Village - Serdoa
TommyGun (Day Vig) - Village - MJW
No item (5) - 5 villagers - Rowain, Tasunke,
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MJW, I'd also like to pose the question why you used your shot already now? I think there was no reason, as it seemed pretty likely that Tasunke would die anyway.

@Ryan

I don't think that makes MJW village. A wolf would know that Tasunke is not another wolf, so killing him and maybe even the gun as well makes sense. And due to the known dislike from MJW for Tasunke it is easy to mask that kill as nothing else than typical MJW. I also don't think that the shot was all that pro-town. We didn't know if Tasunke is not telling the truth and Azza the culprit, so this shot was potentially throwing away THREE additional kills for village (2 vig, 1 day-vig) for an unknown gain.

Also, if Tasunke would have been a wolf, at least he should have waited till the last possible moment to shoot in order to get more out of Tasunke. I think there was much more reason to not shoot than to shoot at this point.
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(January 7th, 2013, 11:17)Serdoa Wrote:
(January 7th, 2013, 10:23)waterbat Wrote: I was going to also lie and counterclaim the gun against tasunke! Because I thought he was lying and I could protect the gun owner. If he was telling the truth, I could protect him from night kill. I couldn't work out to protect him and I both from lynch though.

Let me get this straight: You intended to lie and counterclaim against Tasunke - what most certainly would have gotten him lynched. And then you claim that if he had said the truth your lie would have protected him from the night-kill. How? Because he would have been lynched dead already?

I think a wolf tripped here, trying to get village-brownie-points.

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He says he could have protected the gun owner, not Tasunke.
I have to run.
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