WW 19 Game Thread - Mobster Mayhem - GAME OVER

[pindicator]

Lewwyn, sorry for ruining your good mood. That wasn't my goal. I shouldnt have called your play stupid, that was crossing the line. As for my pushing you as a reversal, i have no hard data, but i did want to follow up on a hunch. I didn't like the sound pf your "I told you so" post after Rowain hung, and i really thought you were too glib on Tasinke's reveal. So i wanted to push hard.

[Qgqqqqq]

WTF. Tasunke?!?!


DO NOT LIE AS A VILLAGER! ESPECIALLY DON'T CLAIM A ROLE AAS YOU DRAW OUT A PR!
THAPPLIES FOR YOU AS WELL WATERBAT.

MIS, as has been mentioned you should've waited for tasunke to respond, though it was probably best anyway.


I'm actually finding Ryan scummy , the way he ignored the obvious battle and kept pleading for people to join his waterbat lynch. SEEMS like complete newbie play but I actually think its more calculated in an attempt ti follow the BRick WW15 precedent..

@Ryan, the reason he pointed out ww 15was to show wolfs don't necessarily lurk, and moreover to show that in the past he as a wolf has not lurked.
Regardless of his guilt,Ithink Watergate has some real life problems that are causing him to lurk.

He's saying that they're nothing there he can defend against.

[Ryan]

@Qgqqqqq I was not convinced by the argument that we should lynch either Azza or Tasunke today. They both said they had items. The current item holders couldnt reveal but they can reveal after tonight since they will be passing thier items anyways. For example the seer and gun. Thats why I believe it wasnt proper to talk about item lynches untill day 3 when we have a vigi and item seer who can reveal without risking thier items.

now moving on to water .he didnt explain it like that and I dont like being told that this is what happened in older WW games . That same issue was used as an excuse for Bigger and all of you let him get away with it. I can see what you mean by i used statments and not questions but I was expecting him to counter my statments or atleast explain why he did that. He didnt he prefered being angry and telling me to fuck off. He is saying he didnt mention the lie while talking to me which he did and I quoted. I either have the choise between listening to what you veterans are saying and what I am noticing from my point of view. I prefer my point of view and learning that away then being forced to play the way you guys want me . I posted since the night why I think Water and selrahc are good lynches and I wrote earlier in this post why I think it was a better idea then Tas or Azza.

I really think that scum influenced or helped influence moving the votes to about Tasunke and Rowain day 1. I let that happen and voted for Tasunke day 1 just because other people where. I am not repeating that mistake to please the crowd.

[Ryan]

and what I mean by the lie is this since I feel its unclear how I wrote it :

Then why would you say it as a way to respond to my attacks? Why couldnt you just respond in a different way? Why couldnt you respond more calmly and without saying fuck off?

I said it as a response to your attacks? Wtf? I never responded to your 'attacks'. You are interpreting all my posts in this forum as having a connection to you?

I give a flying fuck, Ryan. Oh wait I don't.

I was going to also lie and counterclaim the gun against tasunke! Because I thought he was lying and I could protect the gun owner. If he was telling the truth, I could protect him from night kill. I couldn't work out to protect him and I both from lynch though.

Of course you didnt write in response to me...

Please tell me this is not lying?

[Ryan]

I know I didnt have the best start and I might have forced you guys not to take me seriuously but I am gonna keep trying to proove my self.

[waterbat]

I really think that scum influenced or helped influence moving the votes to about Tasunke and Rowain day 1. I let that happen and voted for Tasunke day 1 just because other people where. I am not repeating that mistake to please the crowd.

Why would scum particularly care about tasunke or Rowain? Experience shows that when it's villager on villager, other villagers tend to pull the trigger.

Shall I point out I was parked on zakalwe? With your reasoning that scum were playing tasunke vs Rowain, how do I fit in?

@qgqqq. It's more a new years resolution to spend more time on my job and 5 mouths to feed rather than live online. Phone is making that hard though. Maybe you can send me your old phone. That would be a deterrent.

[novice]

@qgqqq. It's more a new years resolution to spend more time on my job and 5 mouths to feed rather than live online. Phone is making that hard though. Maybe you can send me your old phone. That would be a deterrent.

[Qgqqqqq]

it would be worth it.
Nah I totally understand, I know I spend way to long on these games.

Ryan -one of them was clearly lying,(and considering as a villager) you shouldn't lie, we had a 50:50 shot at a wolf.
Yes you had a case on wb / selrahc, so what? We knew that one of them was a wolf(or we did if tasunke was sane) while you merely had a rather circumstantial case.
I also don't see a lie...
The point is that wolves normally play normally. if they were going to lurk, they do that. if they were going to span posts they do that.
just because bigger was lurking doesn't mean that's what evil will be doing.

[pindicator]

@Qgqqqqq I was not convinced by the argument that we should lynch either Azza or Tasunke today. They both said they had items. The current item holders couldnt reveal but they can reveal after tonight since they will be passing thier items anyways. For example the seer and gun. Thats why I believe it wasnt proper to talk about item lynches untill day 3 when we have a vigi and item seer who can reveal without risking thier items.

I am having a bit of trouble understanding your thought process here as well. Azza called Tasunke out on a lie but you don't think either Tasunke or Azza are guilty?

And when you say "The current item holders couldnt reveal" does that mean you knew Tasunke was lying before he was killed? Because i can't see any harm in a village picklock revealing if Azza was lying about his reveal. There is potential for harm for the vig to reveal though.

[Ryan]

@waterbat Thats the thing is your saying that I take everything you post as including me while saying you didnt mention the lie in response to me. I just quoted and prooved that was wrong and your just quiet about it?

And I said here : " either have the choise between listening to what you veterans are saying and what I am noticing from my point of view. I prefer my point of view and learning that away then being forced to play the way you guys want me . I posted since the night why I think Water and selrahc are good lynches and I wrote earlier in this post why I think it was a better idea then Tas or Azza.

I really think that scum influenced or helped influence moving the votes to about Tasunke and Rowain day 1. I let that happen and voted for Tasunke day 1 just because other people where. I am not repeating that mistake to please the crowd. "

This was more towards why I didnt vote on Tasunke or Azza I should have seprated them better my bad.

To move to the point on why the scum would do that. Why wouldnt they influence a discussion that moved the focus away from them and gave them free time not getting caught. and us fighting together?

You fit in being extremely aggressive. I can understand now why you didnt respond , because the way I mentioned my argument was as statments not questions but I expected you to atleast say something and not ignore it as if confirming that my doubts are correct and you trying to let it die. You lied , your reasoning is wierd in my eyes. Your lurking again in my eyes in a way that yes you are participating yet minimilay , contributing nothing and you give the feel of hypocrisy.



P.S Dude you were really nice and helped me around but I dont understand that angry , Fuck off aggressive tune. I did not say anything that would invoke that and ur putting me from this game when I feel I did nothing wrong or rude towards you.