WW 19 Game Thread - Mobster Mayhem - GAME OVER

[waterbat]

oops read mero's first post in the lurker thread instead of his last post here. while it was hilarious, it didn't spoil anything (as though a no good mother lurker was going to spoil anything)

[zakalwe]

You're welcome, Lewwyn...

Mattimeo, if you've got the double vote, why didn't you use it on day 1?

Official Lynch Vote Count


Rowain - 7 - uberfish, novice, pindicator, Tasunke, Selrahc, Qgqqqqq, Bigger
Tasunke - 6 - zakalwe, Mattimeo, Ryan, Azza, Serdoa, MJW
Selrahc - 3 - Rowain, Lewwyn, Merovech
zakalwe - 1 - waterbat

Players not voting: None

[Qgqqqqq]

I dont think Matt double voted.
I thin they cast it by PM on whoever.

[Lewwyn]

Just noticed these

Read my posts there are four times you voted me. FOUR. There a difference between providng a shred of proof and stating wild claims with no basis except me being a new player stealing peoples words and ideas. and That one attempt I am sorry is a lie and I can quote all the attempts you voted me for lynch and raised me like that. I am not smearing you . Everything I stated is quoted. I am afraid. and yes your basing your arguments on claims, Most of your votes and arguments are based 100% on other people. I dont think you made a single argument that wasnt based of someone elses or wasnt about me. If you cant take a piss to read my posts to make sure about what I am saying that dont make claims that label you as a lier. Also, I am tired of the old wereworlk games. I did not read any of them, I only read 40 pages of the last werewolf. I have zero experience with fourms, This game on a fourm, and how touse fourms + disvussions. All I am looking at is bias to older players. You guys use older games as proof. Your are removing my arguments as copied by the more *Veteran players*. My posts are just not as worthy to be read and I have to quote it several times to be seen. Please next WW game write requirements : 1- Must have fourm experience, 2- Not allowed to state claims if new since it will be treated as false information or not important, 3- Must post in quality of players playing this game since it started on RB.

You guys are extremely unfriendly to new people. I have 0 experience in fourm discussions, using fourm posts, playing a game like this on a fourm and yet I keep getting shown that I am a new guy my posts must be wrong , etc... My posts will never be on the level on people who have been playing this game since ww1. I will never be on the level with someone who has experience with fourms and how to use the different formating , Responding and quoting. Its really frustrating when I see comparsions like this made and an excuse to call me a bad player. If you guys are unaccepting of people at my level of being begineers in games like this . Please just state this and dont accept new players.

It's a steep learning curve, and while we're generally friendly, the game thread never is. You're double a newcomer, being new to both the game and the forum. That makes the curve even steeper. I dunno, maybe we should encourage newcomers to play along in the lurker thread for their first game.

Ummm here's the thing. Ryan, you post too much. If you post too much people start to gloss over your comments. Second we've had many many players who were new who do just fine. Everyone is new at some point. You're being a bit too sensitive. Do not expect people to listen to you. Hell I've play in every game but 1 and people still don't listen to me!

This game is inherently about lying. Everyone is trying to find the liars. That means people are going to rough toward each other. There's a good chance this whole no one likes me, woe is me is just an act. People aren't looking to be friendly in this game. They're looking to make you flinch, see the flinch, and then nail you to the wall. It's a brutal game. It can be fun, it can annoying, it can be frustrating, it can downright infuriating (often it is), but I think part of the reason we play it is people like to debate, fight, and conquer. Fooling other people or figuring out other people. Some like the puzzle, some like the manipulation. Everyone likes the glory!

Just try to be a little less sensitive, try to be less worried about if people are paying attention to you. There are currently 13 people alive and each have their own agenda, often it will not mesh with yours. You have to be willing to take a back seat every now and then. If you play enough of these, sometimes you'll want to be able to fade into the background.

[waterbat]

can we get a Lewwyn-after-the-bar take on those same posts?

seriously though - very well said.

[Serdoa]

We should have lynched Selrahc. Not sure he is scum, but he lurked as heavily as Merovech at least. Oh well, my fault for not switching despite having more scum lean on him as well as on MJW.

[MJW (ya that one)]

I dont think Matt double voted.
I thin they cast it by PM on whoever.

We should make Mattimeo claim doublevoter or make him disavow doublevoter. If he is not doublevoter than we know who ever has the doublevoting machine is very likely wolf. (why would a villager not use it as a doublevote?)

[Serdoa]

Why? Why do you and zak want him to claim either way? What does the village gain by that? If the doublevoter is village, I want him hidden as long as possible, so that the wolves always have to fear him. And if he is wolf, I don't see what we gain by him claiming. Do I overlook something?

[MJW (ya that one)]

Why? Why do you and zak want him to claim either way? What does the village gain by that? If the doublevoter is village, I want him hidden as long as possible, so that the wolves always have to fear him. And if he is wolf, I don't see what we gain by him claiming. Do I overlook something?

If I am villager over 95% of the time I'll used the power as a double-voter. I cannot think of a legit reason that not using it as a double-voting power as a villager. Not using it as a doublevoting power feels like lying to me and only wolfs lie. If a villager has a serect vote power and used it as a double vote it has to be Mattimeo.

I have to look over day 1 to see if Mattimeo was attacking someone aggersively. If he did he would have used his double-voting power if he were a villager.

[MJW (ya that one)]

Well mattimeo had to early vote on page 15ish. It is plasible that he did not have the confidence to use his doublevoting power. Still don't like him failing to use his power though...