[SPOILERS] PB1- Mardoc buys a can of paint for Thoth and Ellimist

[Thoth]

I wouldn't bet against it, I just hate to say things like 'always' and 'never'. Things can always change.

When the sun goes Nova and Chariots are no longer useful, wake me up.

Until then, Coors is the only city we have with both Warrens and a SW.

Name 2 better things we can build here other than chariots.

I don't think this has changed?

Huh. Is that additive -10% or multiplicative?

If we can trade Saltus for more time, even better.

That's the whole point of taking Saltus. It lets us do a Russian defence for a turn or two extra.

Saltus buys us the time we need to get Vicars/Rathas/Vamps on the board.

We've discussed, but you know me, I'm not terribly decisive. Two turns ago I believed in Iron Working . I won't be certain that we're right until it works. Ask me again in 15 turns if we did the right tech path and I might have a clue.

Yeah, I was still leaning towards IW myself.

None of the choices available were bad, it's the fact that we don't seem to actually have made a choice that bothers me.

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Your locked In now though right?

[Mardoc]

We're up again. And again, I've got a little time tonight, but not a lot. But, if I remember correctly, this will be a relatively boring turn, primarily preparation. We've got a chunk of Feudalism to research, a bunch of units to build and move toward the fronts, and 60 workers to command, but we're not quite to a point where we can invade anyone.

So...hopefully you don't need me much.

[Thoth]

We're up again. And again, I've got a little time tonight, but not a lot. But, if I remember correctly, this will be a relatively boring turn, primarily preparation. We've got a chunk of Feudalism to research, a bunch of units to build and move toward the fronts, and 60 workers to command, but we're not quite to a point where we can invade anyone.

So...hopefully you don't need me much.

Should be a quiet turn.

I'm also a bit time limited, so I'm going to jump in and get the domestic stuff dealt with.

[Thoth]

I've been doing some thinking and running some numbers.....

We'll found the two East Island Orc cities t122. I'd like the Orcs to swap to City States that turn.

We hit Feud on t120 after the Elohim tech. T120 Calabim beakers go into Smelting. T121 all beakers into smelting. T122 finish smelting with Calabim beakers, tech Carto with Elohim beakers. Settle offshore islands. Swap Orcs into City States saving ~140gpt in upkeep and costing ~ 175 in farm commerce. Multiple Orc cotts and WSs replace farms in mature cities, port gold cities start super fast growth curve into 3c coast tiles.

We loose a bit of gpt for a couple of turns, but our hammers will go way up and our gpt will recover fast enough to cover the shortfall with in 3t. After that, everything is gravy.

[Thoth]

and it looks like we're going to gank a worker t119 and then raze a Malakim city come t120.

Edit:

Hmmm....post IW, some OO action will either bag us a couple more Malakim cities or some AL for some Gnome Front action.

Win, win I'd say.

[Mardoc]

On balance, I'm agreed on the City States revolt for the orcs. Even though that requires we spend 300ish beakers on Carto, it's probably worth it. Doesn't delay Feud or IW, and I think most later techs are more 'nice to have' than 'essential'. Which describes Cartography too, come to think . But yeah, we want to swap out farms for cottages, at least in the Foreign Trade civ that's mostly mature cities. Which means aristo's gotta go.

and it looks like we're going to gank a worker t119 and then raze a Malakim city come t120.

Hmmm....post IW, some OO action will either bag us a couple more Malakim cities or some AL for some Gnome Front action.

Win, win I'd say.

Seems like overkill to me. Couldn't we do the same with just ritualists, or vampires, or Hasted Chariots, or...

Hmm. On the other hand, the gnomes have a lot of coastal cities too

[Ichabod]

Hey, guys, could you do a screenshot dump post? You don't need to comment on the pictures, just post them. I'd like to see how the map, cities and units are doing.

[Thoth]

Hey, guys, could you do a screenshot dump post? You don't need to comment on the pictures, just post them. I'd like to see how the map, cities and units are doing.

I'll see what I can do. It may take awhile, we have a lot of cities (I'm not sure how many ~40 I think)

[Ichabod]

Hey, guys, could you do a screenshot dump post? You don't need to comment on the pictures, just post them. I'd like to see how the map, cities and units are doing.

I'll see what I can do. It may take awhile, we have a lot of cities (I'm not sure how many ~40 I think)

No need to post all of them. Just some overview shots and maybe the most important ones.