[SPOILERS] Lurkerloos and map discussion

[Gavagai]

I don't understand, why India team didn't whip more triremes. I think, if they focused on triremes right after it was clear that their homeland would fall, they could produce enough to sink all Scooter's remaining galleys, defend their islands and even pirate Scooters seafood for indefinite time. And even now - they could have possibly two more triremes instead of a settler. That would be enough to hold the island.

[Gavagai]

Xenu asked in his thread for lurker's ideas what can be his further goals. Am I correct that it would be against the rules to suggest him to take out Scoopin and relocate himself to a former India's island? That would be quite a hilarious development and easily doable, by the way.

[Sareln]

Xenu asked in his thread for lurker's ideas what can be his further goals. Am I correct that it would be against the rules to suggest him to take out Scoopin and relocate himself to a former India's island? That would be quite a hilarious development and easily doable, by the way.

I don't think it would be proper for global lurkers to offer such advice.

[SevenSpirits]

Xenu asked in his thread for lurker's ideas what can be his further goals. Am I correct that it would be against the rules to suggest him to take out Scoopin and relocate himself to a former India's island? That would be quite a hilarious development and easily doable, by the way.

I am assuming you didn't get to this idea solely by reading Xenu's thread. So yeah, you can't suggest that.

[timski]

I don't understand, why India team didn't whip more triremes.

Essentially every move India have made since being invaded has been between either questionable, poor, or outright : From almost carelessly moving an Axe out into the open next to a stack of Chariots, to whipping walls in a city with 60% cultural defenses, to throwing most of another city's defenders into a pyrrhic victory against a scouting unit... Even now, or at least as of India's last screenshot, their sole Trireme is actively defending their capital's seafood, greatly reducing their options to counter a seemingly inevitable naval attack from the south-west.

To my mind, the reason is the same throughout: India's opponent did something unexpected, and from that point on India's mentality was "game over". Yes, it is surely game over for India now, but half of the examples quoted above were from the first few turns of the war, when they genuinely had everything still to play for. There's a lot of game in between flawless victory and rapid elimination, which India appear to have no interest in learning from.

There are curious parallels with Xenu. Like CFCJesterFool, Xenu seemed to be quite committed to their opening plan, in Xenu's case, specifically their dot-map. But where Jester's commitment almost immediately converted into a state a failure, Xenu's commitment converted into a bloodlust. It would have been interesting to see how Jester and Xenu would have handled one another: Imagine if one of Jester's cities had happened to occupy the same sort of strategic position as Brick's border plant.

I'll be intrigued to see how players react to CFCJesterFool in future games. As Gaspar commented, specific players matter, and this little episode has raised a rather large sign over Jester's head with the words, "Rolls over and dies when taken by surprise." That motto could be painful to loose.

[novice]

Give him a break.

[zakalwe]

Indeed. Ease up a bit with the Schadenfreude.

[Tyrmith]

I don't know, that might be a nice reputation to have if you can bait players properly with it

[Gavagai]

Xenu:

...as I'm at war with Serdoa (I still am, he didn't accept the peace offer last turn.)

Serdoa:

...xenu refuses to make peace with me

...and they both seem to be quite surprised by unwillingness of the other one to make peace. I wonder, what's really happened between them...

[Ceiliazul]

With full view of ScooPin's galleys, India unloaded a super* archer that could have made it back in the city this turn. I know they're just playing out the string, but don't they want to punish their attackers?

*Regarding drill promotions: hypothetically if a drill 4 unit kills an attacking catapult cleanly with first strikes, does the cat still do any collateral?