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WW21 - The Professor Is Dead [game thread]

"Farewell dear heart, for I must needs be gone,"

Aside: my first mislynch dance
Erebus in the Balance - a FFH Modmod based around balancing and polishing FFH for streamlined competitive play.

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(March 14th, 2013, 07:23)Azza Wrote: Vote Tally
Q (4.5) - Lewwyn, Serdoa, zakalwe, novice
zakalwe (4) - Gazglum, Q, Ryan, Jkaen
Lewwyn (1) - Mattimeo

Veeeeerry interesting.

While the rest of the world sleeps, I'm just going to brainstorm on this a moment. Assuming that someone has the power to add a half vote or break a tie, what happened here?

1. Zak (understandably) saved himself. Null tell, and might explain why he seemed relatively unstressed in the final hours. But that could just be Zak.

2. One of the other 3 Q-voters (Serdoa?) just really didn't want to see Zak dead, either because they are scum buddies or they just felt he was innocent. They double voted Q, just to make sure.

If the vote was a 1--shot power, then I don't buy this scenario, because it looked like Q as going down anyway. If it's a daily power then I guess it makes sense to use it. I don't think this tells us much either way, except that Zak's friends like him.

3. Mattimeo is trolling us.

4. Really sneaky - one of the Zak voters wanted Q dead, but didn't want any blood on their hands. If this Mystery Player were village, I don't see why they would want Q dead but be unwilling to vote publicly for him. But if Zak is scum, then his scum-buddy has a perfect way to gain cover and protect him at the same time, by voting Zak publicly but putting the tie-breaking vote on Q.

In this scenario, you have Scum Zak allied with one of Ryan, Jkaen or (if you must) me. I think this line of reasoning is worth looking at tomorrow.
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(March 14th, 2013, 10:33)novice Wrote: Rats.

Did Scruffy have any special abilities, Azza?

Abilities won't be revealed on death, only alignment.
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(March 14th, 2013, 17:32)Gazglum Wrote: Veeeeerry interesting.

While the rest of the world sleeps, I'm just going to brainstorm on this a moment. Assuming that someone has the power to add a half vote or break a tie, what happened here?

1. Zak (understandably) saved himself. Null tell, and might explain why he seemed relatively unstressed in the final hours. But that could just be Zak.

2. One of the other 3 Q-voters (Serdoa?) just really didn't want to see Zak dead, either because they are scum buddies or they just felt he was innocent. They double voted Q, just to make sure.

If the vote was a 1--shot power, then I don't buy this scenario, because it looked like Q as going down anyway. If it's a daily power then I guess it makes sense to use it. I don't think this tells us much either way, except that Zak's friends like him.

3. Mattimeo is trolling us.

4. Really sneaky - one of the Zak voters wanted Q dead, but didn't want any blood on their hands. If this Mystery Player were village, I don't see why they would want Q dead but be unwilling to vote publicly for him. But if Zak is scum, then his scum-buddy has a perfect way to gain cover and protect him at the same time, by voting Zak publicly but putting the tie-breaking vote on Q.

In this scenario, you have Scum Zak allied with one of Ryan, Jkaen or (if you must) me. I think this line of reasoning is worth looking at tomorrow.
Putting half a vote on Qgqqqqq did absolutely nothing, though, since the count-back would have annulled Jkaen's zak vote. Any actual vote for zak would have trumped the half-vote, too.

Which leads me to believe it's either
a passive addition to someone's vote (ie. they vote at 1.5 power),
an enforced ability (they *must* use it each day)
or someone who didn't understand the tie-break rules (say, the person who's treating the half-vote as if it's what killed Qgqqqqq)

Also, while it's entirely consistent with how I would troll, it's not me frown
-- Don’t forget.
Always, somewhere,
someone is fighting for you.
-- As long as you remember her,
you are not alone.
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(March 14th, 2013, 18:01)Azza Wrote:
(March 14th, 2013, 10:33)novice Wrote: Rats.

Did Scruffy have any special abilities, Azza?

Abilities won't be revealed on death, only alignment.

Oh. frown

Rereading the thread, my initial thoughts on where the 0.5 votes come from feel confirmed, but I don't want to speculate about people's roles during nighttime.
I have to run.
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(March 14th, 2013, 18:26)Mattimeo Wrote: Which leads me to believe it's either
a passive addition to someone's vote (ie. they vote at 1.5 power),
an enforced ability (they *must* use it each day)
or someone who didn't understand the tie-break rules (say, the person who's treating the half-vote as if it's what killed Qgqqqqq)

It could be a power belonging to someone who wasn't going to be up for the lynch, so they couldn't be sure that the vote tally wouldn't change. I'm not sure who, if anybody, that would cover though.
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FYI, I'll probably be a bit late with the update tonight. Deadline is still 1200GMT, so please don't post between then and when I get a chance to update.
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I haven't had much time to think about this since yesterday. I'll be busy for the first half of day 2, as well.

I don't think I'll bite it but who knows. My plan for this game was basically to lynch Q, watch him flip scum, and then be night killed. I still feel that was a solid plan, on the face of it. :P So I'm still suspicious of everybody who voted for me yesterday. Though if I do die then I guess it might also be a frame job.

As an aside, Gazglum is giving me some "Look at me! I'm scumhunting!" vibes. lol
If you know what I mean.
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Cubert was playing Dungeons & Dragon's with his friends, to try and get his mind off the horrible things that had been happening at Planet Express. He rolled a 20 and by a freak coincidence had an amazing, fantastic, spectacular idea for catching the killers. Unfortunately, at this very moment, Zapp Brannigan was convinced by the mafia that Cubert would make an excellent addition to his troops that were about to embark upon a journey to the centre of the sun. He was promptly taken away, given basic training, and catapulted into the sun.

Jkaen was killed.

Jkaen was Cubert.

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Cubert was innocent.
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I never got to use the quote I was saving frown

Your explanations are pure weapons grade balognium. It's all impossible.
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