WW22 - Diaries of the Madmen

[novice]

my apologies for my absence. I recently broke my foot ^_^

Sorry to hear that, get well soon. If you're scum, just put the foot in your mouth and the pain will ease (suddenly).

Uberfish, I didn't see anybody else reference that post though.

What stood out about Lewwyn's post was that he immediately voted for the only other player to have posted. Mattimeo didn't have that option since he was the first poster.

[Tasunke]

Also when I heard mad men I thought we'd be on Madison avenue

[Ryan]

Novice - Don't like the way he played this, and thus I don't fault anyone for finding him suspicious yesterday, but somehow he seems to be bailed out by the meta as usual.

It would be easier to agree with that view if you explained what was suspicious about my play yesterday.

Ryan, I asked you the same thing yesterday, implicitly at least, and I'd like an answer:

I am staying on novice , I am not convinced by his arguments. I think a lot of it is far fetched AND I am not letting him live just because of the idea that you shouldnt lynch him day 1.

You can be unconvinced by my arguments that Mattimeo is scum, I don't see why that has to mean that I am scum, though. Also nobody's said anything about "don't lynch Novice on day 1".

Hey I apologize i was busy solving some assigments. Well , I just couldnt believe that the gm would basically tell you , your *the* town member of your group. I still dont like the role list thing, So I just assumed that If Matti was inno then you lied about the name of your role. Which sounds dumb now, since you would be dead right after. I am still going drama queen thinking that they just choose you over Matti, cause ur the glorious novice :P. I apologize.

[thestick]

thestick: Was the mayor election tie broken randomly or by some other mechanic?

In the event the mayor vote is a tie, a coin will be flipped.

[zakalwe]

But then, you know, lynch Jkaen.

Nice plan, Gazglum. He will never see it coming.

If you're scum, just put the foot in your mouth and the pain will ease (suddenly).

Zak - after rereading I don't like his posts #41 and #49 because he says that Ryan is a better target than Mattimeo for 4-wolf paranoia, without saying why. I want an explanation of this.

Not sure what you want me to explain here. I did say why, in post #49:

Zak can you elaborate on why you think I am a better target? You havent given any reasoning for that claim.

I thought Uber's accusation about trying to establish a fake village tell made more sense when leveled at you than when he switched his vote to Mattimeo. I don't view meta-speculation as a scum tell, coming from Mattimeo. The same goes for non-voting, although I agree he should vote for someone. So I'm not saying you're a better target than anyone else, but it felt like Uberfish was taking a wrong turn there.

Ryan explicitly embraced the 4-wolf theory in a way that was pretty sure to be refuted by someone doing the actual math, and I thought the idea that he could be doing that on purpose made sense. But I didn't suspect Mattimeo at that point. His tone was perhaps a little off, as Lewwyn had noted, but I thought that might be a seer tell, if anything. When Novice made the neighbor claim, I reconsidered my stance on Mattimeo, discarding that idea.

Speaking of wolf numbers, don't you think two wolves sounds a bit low, even with a puppet on a leach? Mattimeo just flipped as a Mafia Neighbor, so that sounds like he didn't have any other powers. I think a two-player scum team would need some pretty powerful stuff to compensate for their low numbers.

One thought I had is that they could have been waiting for Tasunke to appear and save the day. If he is scum, their day one play would be less coordinated. (He missed his turn in the RB demogame so I do believe he was genuinely absent.)

[Tasunke]

9:2 -> 8:2 -> 7:2 (day 2 if mislynch)

6:2 -> 5:2 (day 3 if second mislynch)

4/2 3/2 (day 4 if third mislynch)

With Day 4 being Lylo.


Now, assuming 3 wolves

8:3 -> 7:3 -> 6:3

D2 5:3 -> 4:3

Day 3 lylo.


If there are 3 wolves then it is a day3 lylo. If 2 wolves a day4 lylo. Exculding power usages of course.

I wouldn't be surprised if there were 3 wolves, as that would lead to the same number of lynches and mislynches. Especially since one wolf was just a 'neighbor'.

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We did however nab a kill today. So lucky us gets a Day4 lylo instead. I think we are looking for two people.

8:3 -> 8:2 -> 7:2 (beginning of day 2)

D2 7:2 -> 6:2 -> 5:2

D3 5:2 -> 4:2 -> 3:2

D4 lylo.

With our lucky break, it looks like we are back to D4 lylo.

[Tasunke]

forgot about the no editing rule >_< ... all I rly did was add two posts together and remove a 'however'

[Ryan]

you guys are still assuming that the puppet master has to be scum.

[novice]

you guys are still assuming that the puppet master has to be scum.

Why would a town puppet master unvote Azza's mattimeo vote?

[Ryan]

to screw with him? Cause it would cause no diff? maybe to prove that hes a puppet and not lying?