WW22 - Diaries of the Madmen

[Jkaen]

Ok, so far claimed we have:

Jkaen - Village Tracker
Azza - Puppet?
Ryan
Qgqqqqq - Miller?
Tasunke
Gazglum
zakalwe
uberfish
novice - Village Neighbour?
Mattimeo - Mafia Neighbor - Lynched Day 1
Lewwyn - Village Compulsive Post Restrictor - Killed Night 1.

With Q either that means we have a seer, or he is scum
Azza has his role confirmed effectively therefore we have a puppetmaster

Ok lets say then in the strong village camp we have:
Me, Novice, Lewwyn, Azza

Mafia:
Mattimeo

Impossible to read:
Tansuke

That leaves me, if I want to live, with finding a wolf out of:
Ryan, Qgqqqqq, Gazglum, zakalwe, uberfish

Will try and find time later today to put a case together, but as you have seen I am not on much atm

[Gazglum]

As Novice said, I don't know if Azza is confirmed puppet. It could be a very clever stunt to cover the fact that he has an ability to secretly change his own vote. Remember, Azza has lied about negative roles before.

Would a GM really give out an ability that took away someone's ability to impact the lynch? It's a pretty harsh penalty, that could heavily impact their enjoyment of the game. That's why I was asking before if there is a precedent for it in our games.

[Qgqqqqq]

Ok, so far claimed we have:

Jkaen - Village Tracker
Azza - Puppet?
Ryan
Qgqqqqq - Miller?
Tasunke
Gazglum
zakalwe
uberfish
novice - Village Neighbour?
Mattimeo - Mafia Neighbor - Lynched Day 1
Lewwyn - Village Compulsive Post Restrictor - Killed Night 1.

With Q either that means we have a seer, or he is scum
Azza has his role confirmed effectively therefore we have a puppetmaster

Ok lets say then in the strong village camp we have:
Me, Novice, Lewwyn, Azza

Mafia:
Mattimeo

Impossible to read:
Tansuke

That leaves me, if I want to live, with finding a wolf out of:
Ryan, Qgqqqqq, Gazglum, zakalwe, uberfish

Will try and find time later today to put a case together, but as you have seen I am not on much atm

Got another post brewing, but Miller doesn't gaurantee seer.
Makes it more likely, but remember when we had a vege werewolf (read:miller) and no seer?


I kinda doubt that azza isn't a puppet (scum or otherwise) as he's normally a bit reluctant to claim early, so I doubt he'd make one up.
That said, it is an unusual role, with the rest being mafiascum.com-normal.

[zakalwe]

Or, Azza is telling the truth but is scum. Not having to actually vote for real should be more of a relief, for scum.

[Qgqqqqq]

It could be a very clever stunt to cover the fact that he has an ability to secretly change his own vote.

Didn't read this, I think its another possibility.

[zakalwe]

Ok, let's vote on it...

Azza

The 2 1/2 scum theory makes more sense that way.

[Qgqqqqq]

I also think puppeter could be either alignment, but I doubt Ryan is it.

Turns out I can quote any post I like. Yes I suck at reading PMs.

Q, why would a town puppet master stay hidden and do antitown actions such as unvoting Azza's vote?

I think any number of reasons - demonstrating ability (it had no effect on the matt lynch...), desire to be mayor (who could I possibly be talking about ), or just using the power that double-vote allows.
Depends on the individual really...also consider scum azza being self controlled/controlled by a partner.

I definitely think that scum aligned puppeteer is more likely, but I'm not willing to rule it out yet.

I'm not strong on Jkaen as villager, just don't see him as wolf paticularly. Azza is a bit suspicious too - I don't like his handling of the self-vote...but I'd like not too get bogged down with the same people going back and forth.
Lets here more from uberfisah.


Azza, did you listen to what I said in the night? If not, its just a knee-jerk reaction that I can ignore anyway (), if so, what did you think?

Tasunke have you had a chance to read the thread?
What did you think on't?

[Jkaen]

Not keen on Azza as scum partly because it was his argument that moved me onto Mattimeo, I dont see the need for that if he was on the same team

[novice]

Would a GM really give out an ability that took away someone's ability to impact the lynch? It's a pretty harsh penalty, that could heavily impact their enjoyment of the game. That's why I was asking before if there is a precedent for it in our games.

No precedent and it is indeed pretty harsh, although creative.

Fake edit: Azza was only parroting my case really, although it did seem half the village didn't understand my case. It might not have been clear to scum at the time though that every villager had "village" in his role PM, so village credit to Azza for stating that outright.

[Azza]

Ok, let's vote on it...

Azza

The 2 1/2 scum theory makes more sense that way.

In absence of a better lead, policy lynching me is the best choice, but IMO there's no shortage of good lynch candidates. Q and Jkaen have been really sus, and to a lesser extent Ryan, uberfish and Gazglum are suspicious to me.

Azza, did you listen to what I said in the night? If not, its just a knee-jerk reaction that I can ignore anyway (), if so, what did you think?

I saw what you said, and it hasn't changed my mind.