WW22 - Diaries of the Madmen

[zakalwe]

Now isn't that a convienient coincidence

In a small game, every vote counts for a lot and it makes a ton of sense to just kill off the people who suspect you, rather than trying to frame someone else. See last game for some prime examples of that. Of course, there could be other reasons for killing Lewwyn, too. But I don't think that argument can be brushed off as WIFOM.

[Ryan]

Sigh, lets imagine these numbers cause I forgot them :

Matti : 5votes
Jkean: 2 votes.
2 ppl already on Jkean. I wanted Novice lynched but I let you guys take matti since it would settle the neighbour issue and if ur wrong then it's novice who's scum which I even said on day 1.

Lewwyn and gag were on Jkean and I didn't want them to just pass through day 1 without deciding between Jkean and matti. I presume that a mayor Is asked to choose when a tie happens. I move 1 vote to Jkean from me. Second vote by Azza to him. Who was voting Jkean.

Jkean : 4
Matti : 4

Then I wait to see if I can make lewwyn or gag win mayor vote, but wait gag votes matti then it becomes
Jkean : 5
Matti:3
I don't Remmber if anyone changed votes. Now with my power even if I use it Jkean would never win the lynch. I even said in chat when i voted him : i wanna put pressure on him. in my mind forcing someone to choose instead of passing the day with a vote on someone else. So I decided to cancel Azzas vote in order to show hes not lying about puppet master/puppet. I allowed gag to get in a tie with uber cause I preferred gag over uber still.


Now I don't see what is hard to understand about this to make me repeat it 3 times.

[Jkaen]

I was refering tot he fact he bashes somebody for taking the easy path onto me, then does exactly the same himself.

If he admitted it was some sort of defensive vote then fair enough, but all he did is state I feel scummy and in general all people are doing are refering to my voting record, which I have to point out reads 1-0 right now

Just because dead man Lewwyn found me suspicious shouldnt be enough to vote on, its a fairly common go by his radar doesn't work properly till day 3 anyway.

So to state again, I really dont see a case on me

[Ryan]

Azza can still be town. Gag can still be scum since he switched really late and didn't know a puppet master could influence the vote. Oh w8 don't you think as scum I would have saved matti really easily if I wanted with a double vote ? All I needed was one more scum to vote with me.

[Ryan]

Azza can still be town. Gag can still be scum since he switched really late and didn't know a puppet master could influence the vote. Oh w8 don't you think as scum I would have saved matti really easily if I wanted with a double vote ? All I needed was one more scum to vote with me.

Jkaen (2) Lewwyn Ryan
novice (1) Mattimeo
Tasunke (1) Qgqqqqq

All matti had to do was vote Jkean .

[novice]

Seems like Uberfish is making an honest effort to catch scum, but I think Ryan was a better target than Mattimeo.

Zak can you elaborate on why you think I am a better target? You havent given any reasoning for that claim.

I thought Uber's accusation about trying to establish a fake village tell made more sense when leveled at you than when he switched his vote to Mattimeo. I don't view meta-speculation as a scum tell, coming from Mattimeo. The same goes for non-voting, although I agree he should vote for someone. So I'm not saying you're a better target than anyone else, but it felt like Uberfish was taking a wrong turn there.

These were the only two references to Mattimeo from Zak before I claimed neighbour.

This is his first post after the claim.

Mattimeo being a neighbor makes me more open to lynching him, because part of my reluctance towards him was that he gave me a slight seer vibe yesterday. I didn't comment on his "upbeat" tone then, but for me it mainly reminded me of the game where everybody was a seer. With this new information, he would be a very "safe" lynch, yielding useful information, and eliminating a player who is historically bad at defending himself as town, anyway.

It seems convenient how you decide to speak up about your true feelings about Mattimeo once it's become clear to scum that he's going down, Zak.

Actually as I write that I think it really should be obvious to scum that Mattimeo is going down the minute I claim. Lewwyn is on him, Uberfish is and if he's scum he can't credibly switch, I'm on him, and the reason I'm on him is surely the answers Mattimeo gave to my quizzing in the neighbour thread, so the shit must be about to hit the fan.

Following my claim there's all kinds of suspicious activities from JKaen, Q and Ryan. They fight against a Mattimeo lynch or push other candidates. I really hate letting bad behaviour slide on a "scum wouldn't do that" basis, but it does feel a bit too obvious.

I'm inclined to agree that Ryan gets a town lean from his puppet master claim, and that having the same alignment for master and puppet is a bit less likely than not. I'm not sure who I would lynch of Azza and Ryan though. I'd rather lynch Zak, Jkaen or Tasunke. And that's not to say that I find Q or Gazglum or Uberfish innocent.

I guess the main question though is whether to pick someone actively fighting a Mattimeo lynch or someone getting on the bus.

Crossposting a bit.

[novice]

Now with my power even if I use it Jkean would never win the lynch. I even said in chat when i voted him : i wanna put pressure on him.

Who were you chatting with when you voted Jkaen?

[Jkaen]

Novie, what makes you suspicious of Tasunke, he has basically ghosted through this whole game so far so I cant get any read at all

[Ryan]

Novie, what makes you suspicious of Tasunke, he has basically ghosted through this whole game so far so I cant get any read at all

With you guys ? Do I have to go through my posts just to quote myself ?

[novice]

Novie, what makes you suspicious of Tasunke, he has basically ghosted through this whole game so far so I cant get any read at all

Not so much suspicious of as willing to lynch, given his lack of contributions so far. I don't think it speaks in his favour either that his first post after appearing was dedicated to lylo metaanalysis.