WW22 - Diaries of the Madmen

[thestick]

And here, you're justifying your accusation with something I said after you made the accusation.

TheStick, the PR said I had to quote a previous poster - am I allowed to quote future posts too?

At least it's the night phase. Um, sure.

Waterbat got the scraper running:
http://www.cassidyweb.com/ww22/

[uberfish]

@Zak

1) all I remember reading from you yesterday are comments along the lines of "this is a good point, but..." That's why I called you out for fence sitting.

2) you had one late night vote on you, from Tasunke. Why are you more concerned about this than the actual mislynch?

3) Tasunke clearly hasn't bothered to read day 1 properly. If he's scum all he had to do to give a convincing impression of this was to... well, not bother to read day 1 properly. I'm not giving him any town points for that.

[uberfish]

oh look, the clock's messed up again

[novice]

@Zak

2) you had one late night vote on you, from Tasunke. Why are you more concerned about this than the actual mislynch?

3) Tasunke clearly hasn't bothered to read day 1 properly. If he's scum all he had to do to give a convincing impression of this was to... well, not bother to read day 1 properly. I'm not giving him any town points for that.

Agree with this.

[zakalwe]

I haven't been fence sitting.

Lately I have been thinking I should get off it, but I was planning to go for Jkaen. And now I'm pondering if I should follow you on Gazglum instead.

^ Fence sitting

I'll address this, since it was also parroted by Gazglum. I cast a vote early in the day, argued for my views, and also stated my lynch preferences (Azza or Jkaen) well in time before the deadline, and well before your post here. To me, that does not constitute fence sitting. And here, you're justifying your accusation with something I said after you made the accusation.

I really dislike how everybody suddenly managed to convince themselves that there can be no seer, and therefore we should lynch someone who didn't claim and is sleeping. Why would I have claimed until now? I had ONE vote on me, for a limited time, during all of day 2. And it's not like there was a case on me that I could defend against; it was basically just a bare vote from Novice, which I interpreted to be a generic pressure vote. Why did we push Jkaen and Gazglum to claim if we were going to lynch someone who didn't claim at the last minute? Why should the claim that you've heard dissuade you more than the claim that you didn't hear? Hint: If you push a scum to claim, the claim is going to sound good. It shouldn't come as a surprise.

To be clear, I'm not complaining about being the target of suspicion, but at least give me a heads up that you might want to lynch me before I'm asleep. And to justify it by saying that I would have claimed by now if I'm the seer... it's just mystifying.

Having said all of that, I think I may have to give Tasunke a village lean after last night. The whole "clueless, confused, and didn't read the thread" act is a bit too expertly done to be faked. Granted, actually reading the thread can be a real drag as scum, but I'd still expect him to at least pretend that he did. I have a hard time seeing scum claiming that he read about a seer claim on page 1 but didn't question anyone about it. (Though maybe that counts as normal play in Tasunke's mind. )

[novice]

Uber, I think you're misreading my attacks on Azza a bit. Yes, it is a meta argument, and I said that from the start. The actual argument I laid out in post #273, and it doesn't mention 2.5 wolves at all. To summarise,

- Azza's voting record tells us very little, because he knew his votes would probably be changed anyway.
- I believe that Ryan is town, and I have strong doubts that puppet and master would both be town (I think, knowing my own ability, it starts to suggest an overly power-weak town lineup)
- This is because Azza's 'side-quest' in this game is to reclaim his liberty. If Ryan and Azza are both town then there is NO WAY he can do that without damaging our chances to win the 'main quest' of lynching wolves.
- If Azza is scum, then he has a in-game goal that makes sense.

That's the crux of the argument.

Okay, I'm gonna go with this. Azza.

So now we lynch Ryan then?

[Tasunke]

Isn't it strictly impossible to quote future posts? As no editing is allowed. So any possible quoting without edits seems fair.

[novice]

Isn't it strictly impossible to quote future posts? As no editing is allowed. So any possible quoting without edits seems fair.

Yeah it was a joke, the forum clock was messed up. Zak's post 425 was actually posted between Jkaen's post 419 and my post 420.

[Tasunke]

Well, if gaz and zak were the most suspicious of day2 then I'm rather surprised how we went from gaz to jak to azza. How did zak slip under the radar voting wise?

[zakalwe]

Testing if I can post again.