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Gaz,
Right now I can't see what uber could claim that would change who we lynch today. That means the scum still don't know if his power is more dangerous than mine, and hence which of us (or novice, very probable villager, useless power now) to take out (assuming uber is village)
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(April 13th, 2013, 18:23)Jkaen Wrote: Well I think the case on Gaz is still besty, but if he isnt scum then I think it has to be Zak up next as based on me not getting a result, one of them must be scum
I've realised this isn't true, Jkaen. PLease ignore my shouted words to the contrary yesterday.
The Stick says that roleblocking goes before my protection, so you could have been roleblocked. So:
1. Yes, Zak could be scum
2. Uber could be a roleblocker, and blocked you
3. QQQQ could be a roleblocker pretending to be a miller, and blocked you (still not sold on having a miller now we know there was no alignment seer, and we'll be coming to Q in a little while).
Ryan and Novice are pretty confirmed in their roles, so they couldn't have done it.
If Qqqq or Uber is a roleblocker, and you are town, then they would almost certainly have targeted you because you had a known ability that was a danger to them. And I'm now about 80% sure that one of them IS a roleblocker, because of what happened to me and Novice, so don't assume Zak has to be bad.
Though he could be.
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(April 13th, 2013, 19:57)Jkaen Wrote: Gaz,
Right now I can't see what uber could claim that would change who we lynch today. That means the scum still don't know if his power is more dangerous than mine, and hence which of us (or novice, very probable villager, useless power now) to take out (assuming uber is village)
I'm not that interested in today anymore, Jkaen. I want to try and understand the pieces on the board before I die, so I can try and crack this puzzle while I'm still here.
And I just think it's wrong to think that Uber would be taken out before you or Novice, at this stage. Unless he is genuinely an alignment seer.
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(April 11th, 2013, 18:22)Gazglum Wrote: It's not all about you Novice.
Well that just seems like bad game design.
(April 12th, 2013, 23:39)zakalwe Wrote: Ok, let's not waste any more time waiting for Jkaen to clarify. Presumably he'll just say that he can't distinguish between being blocked and me going nowhere. It just felt like he was trying for extra credit in case I had a passive role and did nothing.
I'm a traffic cop. I used to be a detective, but got demoted for my practice of publicly executing my suspects. I have an ability called roadblock, which lets me pick two players and prevent them from targeting each other. On night 1, I chose Azza and Novice, figuring that Azza would perform the kill if he was scum. On night 2, I chose Jkaen and Novice, figuring that Jkaen would have no reason to track Novice.
So if anyone blocked Jkaen, it wasn't me. I would only prevent him from tracking Novice.
Now, Gazglum,
*pulls out his service gun and starts shooting at the ground*
let's see you do the quickstep.
Three questions, Zak:
1. Are you not worried about quoting your role pm? That's some pretty specific flavor you're listing there.
2. Why would Azza perform the night 1 kill, and JKaen the night 2 kill?
3. Why did you vote Gazglum here when you know that you visited JKaen, and JKaen claims "no result"?
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1. Not really, all of what I said is paraphrased from the exact wording in my role PM. I did "quote" the name of my ability, but I don't see why that would be a problem. We've always been doing that before without any reactions from the mod. That's not what the no quoting rule is meant to prevent.
2. If Azza was scum, he was arguably the least valuable scum, since he couldn't control his own vote. (Unless Ryan was in on it, which seemed unlikely.) Also, blocking him (and you) would have no ill effects in case he was innocent. Similar logic applied for Jkaen on night 2; he had no reason to track you, so the block was harmless if he was innocent. Blocking Gazglum would be risky, as I didn't want to stop him from protecting you if he was telling the truth.
3. I was more interested in pressuring Gazglum at that point. I thought a Gazglum + Jkaen pair was pretty likely, and I still do. But Gazglum visiting (by his own admission) Jkaen could also mean that Jkaen was telling the truth about being blocked. If he is innocent, and the scum have a blocker, then blocking him would be a pretty logical thing to do. So if Gazglum flips as a roleblocker, then that just about clears Jkaen in my mind.
If you know what I mean.
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(April 13th, 2013, 20:03)Qgqqqqq Wrote: http://realmsbeyond.net/forums/showthread.php?tid=5973
Should we get a QT for the week?
I would rather pause/extend the game than play in a QT, tbh.
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Back.
Like my initial vote on gazglum.
Some thoughts: ridiculous idea that its not his role pm name - everyone else has quoted theirs, and I believe he named his own in '20.
Matyr doesn't seem like one he would be getting (completely meta FTR) as it seems the setup is either traditional (miller, neighbor etc.) or unique (puppets, traffic cop (if real)). and martyr fits into neither of those, as its not a common role here HOWEVER it was a role in '20 so he may be thinking it is when making it up.
Oh and gaz, there are a bunch of reasons why he wouldn't claim - as said, he'shardly avoiding it as scum,as he could say anything, but also his claiming as villager could really hurt the village no.1 [if its a strong PR then obviously he doesn't want to reveal and get attention, no.2 [if its a weak PR then his staying silent means he can attract paranoid wolf kills.
If your to have a shred of believeability, quote your pm name gazglum.
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Lynch:
Gazglum (6) zakalwe novice uberfish Jkaen Ryan Qgqqqqq
uberfish (1) Gazglum
EDIT: Crossposted with Qgqqqqq
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(April 14th, 2013, 06:55)Qgqqqqq Wrote: Back.
Like my initial vote on gazglum.
Some thoughts: ridiculous idea that its not his role pm name - everyone else has quoted theirs, and I believe he named his own in '20.
Matyr doesn't seem like one he would be getting (completely meta FTR) as it seems the setup is either traditional (miller, neighbor etc.) or unique (puppets, traffic cop (if real)). and martyr fits into neither of those, as its not a common role here HOWEVER it was a role in '20 so he may be thinking it is when making it up.
Oh and gaz, there are a bunch of reasons why he wouldn't claim - as said, he'shardly avoiding it as scum,as he could say anything, but also his claiming as villager could really hurt the village no.1 [if its a strong PR then obviously he doesn't want to reveal and get attention, no.2 [if its a weak PR then his staying silent means he can attract paranoid wolf kills.
If your to have a shred of believeability, quote your pm name gazglum.
What exactly are you saying here Q? What is your "pm name"?
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