WW22 Lurker Thread - A Psychologist's Report

[novice]

I didn't catch any spoilers outside of tags.. but then I wasn't reading this thread carefully

There was one major spoiler, and you were the one who posted it outside spoiler tags in post 158:

EDIT: my apologies, it started already with Tasunke's post 120. Anyway, hard to get a lurker's unbiased opinion with that info floating around.

well the fact that uberfish has lies about his role this late in the game (tasunke scanned him as jailer, he's claiming commuter) pretty much damns him as scum. the key is if Q, ryan, or jkaen will pick that up. I'm doubtful. Maybe Ryan, I don't think Q or jkaen will reread or pay enough attention to catch it. novice didn't even catch it :/

[Bigger]

well considering I'm not spoiled, its pretty hard to claim I'm dropping spoilers :P. I figured that out on my own, sans spoilers.

[novice]

well considering I'm not spoiled, its pretty hard to claim I'm dropping spoilers :P. I figured that out on my own, sans spoilers.

You're spoiled because you've read this thread and both Matt and Tasunke dropped spoilers about the thing you were commenting on. Intentional or not, once someone drops a spoiler all the ensuing discussion gets "tainted", as Zak called it.

[Ichabod]

well considering I'm not spoiled, its pretty hard to claim I'm dropping spoilers :P. I figured that out on my own, sans spoilers.

You're spoiled because you've read this thread and both Matt and Tasunke dropped spoilers about the thing you were commenting on. Intentional or not, once someone drops a spoiler all the ensuing discussion gets "tainted", as Zak called it.

Fruit of the Poisonous Tree.

Werewolf Law, where do I sign?

or maybe:

Law and Order: Werewolf Investigation Unit

[Molach]

Being mortal I read some spoilers. So probably safest to return the favor.

Jkaen: "Uber, just resign the game. You lost"

(Uber does not)

So, "I'm not stupid, I see where this is going, if I were scum I'd just resign the game. Therefore I am villager"-defense?

Jkaen dies tonight - "Obviously Qq framing me by not killing Ryan"

But any chance it might work?

[Lewwyn]

I pretty much stopped posting in the thread after it became pretty spoilery. I think my last unbiased posts were before Gaz's lynch day. Where I stated Gaz and Zak were my top scum and Jkaen was in my innocent pile.

I do wish that there weren't any spoiler tagged spoilers and that everyone could just button up. I think it detracts from my enjoyment of watching the game post death as a lurker. Even if I don't read the spoilers, things slip out, plus its temptation that even if overcome gnaws at me when people use spoilered replies to spoilers. For the most part I think we've been able to keep these games spoiler free though. And usually when we have a spoilery lurker thread theres enough backlash that we don't have a spoilery thread for the next few games.

[Gazglum]

I pretty much stopped posting in the thread after it became pretty spoilery. I think my last unbiased posts were before Gaz's lynch day. Where I stated Gaz and Zak were my top scum and Jkaen was in my innocent pile.

I do wish that there weren't any spoiler tagged spoilers and that everyone could just button up. I think it detracts from my enjoyment of watching the game post death as a lurker. Even if I don't read the spoilers, things slip out, plus its temptation that even if overcome gnaws at me when people use spoilered replies to spoilers. For the most part I think we've been able to keep these games spoiler free though. And usually when we have a spoilery lurker thread theres enough backlash that we don't have a spoilery thread for the next few games.

Yeah, the problem with spoiler tags is that you end up with two parallel discussions going on, one in tags and one outside. It fragments us. I would be happy to agree to a no-spoiler rule next time. On the other hand, it's hard for Mattimeo to have nobody to talk to. I don't mind dead wolves spoiler-tagging each other.

Jkaen wins my Player of the Match award by the way. Not only for his great deductions at the moment, but also for handling the extreme pressure of Day 1 and 2 like a gentleman. I think everybody has been pretty relaxed and good-humoured this game, and its felt the friendliest one I've done. Thumbs up to The Stick and all the players.

(Now wait and watch a vicious 3-way slanging match develop between Ryan, Q and Uber.)

[NobleHelium]

well considering I'm not spoiled, its pretty hard to claim I'm dropping spoilers :P. I figured that out on my own, sans spoilers.

You're spoiled because you've read this thread and both Matt and Tasunke dropped spoilers about the thing you were commenting on. Intentional or not, once someone drops a spoiler all the ensuing discussion gets "tainted", as Zak called it.

Fruit of the Poisonous Tree.

Werewolf Law, where do I sign?

or maybe:

Law and Order: Werewolf Investigation Unit

I bet you watch more American television than most of us Americans.

[Gazglum]

Lets see if uber wants to bother trying to counter that, I think its even more sewn up than I thought it was going to be when I started trying to pull the case together. I think if I was him I would wave the white flag and concede this.

What are people's opinions on this by the way? If the last scum feels like it's hopeless (not saying it is here), then is it good sportsmanship to concede defeat, or do you think they should fight on? I'm thinking that if I'm ever in the last scum position, I would find it hard to get enthused about lying and attacking people for 48 hours if the outcome doesn't seem in doubt.

[Lewwyn]

Lets see if uber wants to bother trying to counter that, I think its even more sewn up than I thought it was going to be when I started trying to pull the case together. I think if I was him I would wave the white flag and concede this.

What are people's opinions on this by the way? If the last scum feels like it's hopeless (not saying it is here), then is it good sportsmanship to concede defeat, or do you think they should fight on? I'm thinking that if I'm ever in the last scum position, I would find it hard to get enthused about lying and attacking people for 48 hours if the outcome doesn't seem in doubt.

There's always a chance... If it were me I might not kill Jkaen. Wait for him to track me while I killed one of the others, claim he's lying, and get Jkaen lynched.