You Just Lost Thug Aim

[Commodore]

Jon: malcontents for neighbors on all sides
12:05 PM darius at max gold probably isn't enough for an upgrade, is it?
12:06 PM me: Um
Yeah, but no Currency
12:07 PM Jon: oh yeah, i keep forgetting that it's separate gold banks
me: Nor does Darius have custody of the copper atm.
Jon: how about teching archery?
can darius 1-turn that?
then chop an archer
me: I can 1t archery with Darius, and working the ph mine, plus having the workers finish the gh mine, allows Rose to 1t an archer
12:08 PM Jon: well, that would mean more workers, wouldn't it?
but not petunia...
me: Sadly, we're one worker turn short of being able to chop the woods.
Jon: i take it that they're both solo chariots?
me: Yeah
12:09 PM Jon: k, so rose is fine then
but an archer would free up the spear to move on its own
me: Right
12:10 PM By the way, city for copper/deer can get founded now in the south
Jon: yay
me: fwiw
Still takes time to hook copper.
Jon: we got caught gambling on petunia
it's not a huge lose since it's so early
me: Yeah.
12:11 PM The missionary is what sucks.
Jon: i think we do need to get another spear up there though, so we can keep the chariot from doing more damage tactically
yeah, the miss is a loss
we went meditation, right?
me: Yeah
Jon: looks like we get to build a monastery
me: I was going to build a monastery in Rose.
12:12 PM Right. It's not too bad.
12:13 PM Just annoying.
Jon: yeah
me: Darius has 6 chariots, I'd love to send them to Hs
Jon: where are they?
12:15 PM me: All in Holy Rome.
Jon: dang
me: We need to punish SMack too, they are the bigger threat.
Jon: too bad we can't focus solely on them
12:16 PM me: Yeah
I'm going to rename the Petunia warrior. Not a message, a prophecy.
12:17 PM "Your chariot has defeated us all in combat."
"Our hopes have been razed!"
Jon: lol
i think that's worthwhile
12:18 PM who knows, maybe we get lucky
me: 2+25%+10%
12:19 PM Not likely, but it happens.
Jon: yeah, not likely
i'd put it on max commerce
me: Archery teched, and next time we play smart and use an archer
12:20 PM Jon: probably a scouting unit is a good idea too
me: Now the second priority is killing these things so they don't keep messing with us.
Jon: yes
between the spear and roading workers we should be able to bop any that get too close
me: Eh, we scouted before planting, but chariots are fast.
12:21 PM Jon: well, i mean like a early-warning unit
12:22 PM me: Yeah
Meh
Metagame, guys!
12:23 PM Academies all over, SMack is going to win unless we can stop them.
It's that simple.
Jon: hopefully they're getting some harassment as well
we should move a chariot or two from HRE to England though
12:24 PM me: WK seems to be running the stuff in RMOG
So...not hyper-aggressive.
Jon: SMAC may come from the north there as well
me: Yeah, agreed.
And an axe.
Jon: and a tank
don't forget the tank
me: With care, axe might bop a chariot too
12:25 PM As long as the axe gets to be the attacker.
Jon: yeah
12:26 PM me: Sigh
Just delays the SMacking.
Jon: yeah
hey, we got 10 other cities, right?
i bet nobody else has that many
12:30 PM me: Probably not.
12:31 PM 11 next turn with the fur/deer spot.
Either sign or 1N
Jon: the sign is just to get the extra fur up sooner?
12:33 PM me: Yeah
Well, plus doesn't waste a riverside grass
But I love tundra cottages.
Jon: we also orphan one, though, don't we?
12:37 PM me: Nope
Just leaves it for that filler city.
12:38 PM Jon: in that case i'm ok with either
not like we won't be able to plant cities easily with this setup
me: Heh, right
12:39 PM Jon: btw, if we're able, we should really look at Darius building HG
me: Cheap settler, slap it down for free with Darius' rathaus, it works 6 cottages, 5 riverside.
Absolutely, just need to find stone
12:40 PM Marble makes me think it exists.
Probably out west [because we know all the east].
Jon: yeah
marble had me thinking we build ToA just for the GP points
priest for shrine or merchant for a bulb
me: My Taoist shrine in PB8 is from the ToA
12:41 PM Not a bad deal for 5GPP
Jon: yeah, and with marble it doesn't cost much more than a great lighthouse would
me: CoL+Med means a Philo bulb->Angkor works too if we have stone.
12:42 PM Jon: yeah
12:44 PM me: Academies, though
Jon: i'm ... less keen on those tbh
12:45 PM since darius is so wide
an early one could help a grassland wonder
me: We lack those.
12:46 PM Although recall, non-riverside grass takes a whopping 32 turns to outperform those Fin coasts.
12:47 PM Jon: yeah

[Lewwyn]

Jesus they are stupid.

[pindicator]

Jesus they are stupid.

Yeah, we probably are going to need some units to our east. But if they don't come with any kind of strong push then it should only need a few units to deter opportunistic strikes. In the meantime let's keep pushing expansion, and pushing SMack

[Commodore]

You fools!

[Lewwyn]

I would like to just throw the game away and teach them a lesson about the true meta game of civ, but I feel I'd simply be fulfilling their failure. I suppose I'll have to make do with:

YOU GUYS ARE FUCKING IDIOTS!

[Commodore]

[Kurumi]

Does people building an army not happen here? As far I've seen people prefer to have 2 warriors for 4 cities and they're perfectly content with such defences... Given this is an AW game I'd expect more than warrior garrisons by now x.o
EDIT: Unless everyone is going for this super high risk/reward play which means everyone tries to do the same thing so there's nothing to attack with.

[Commodore]

Yeah, it's super-high risk/reward play, we're not beating Seven/Mackoti otherwise. Or, come now let's be honest, we're just not beating Seven and Mackoti. Honestly, H-Team is just playing their little game, ignoring meta considerations. They literally went Stonehenge first; it's not like they're winning after that open in any metagame.

[Lewwyn]

Does people building an army not happen here? As far I've seen people prefer to have 2 warriors for 4 cities and they're perfectly content with such defences... Given this is an AW game I'd expect more than warrior garrisons by now x.o
EDIT: Unless everyone is going for this super high risk/reward play which means everyone tries to do the same thing so there's nothing to attack with.

Its not like we don't have units. We were the first to build chariots. We have like 6. We have axes built. The issue is they are all arrayed at Smack who is FAR CLOSER than 4H. We HAVE military. It's on a different border.

They are stupid because they sent chariots across 20 tiles to their Far neighbors who are not anywhere near settling close to them. They are stupid because they don't gain anything from this. In fact, they are stupid because they weaken their bulwark against Smack who are the clear frontrunners.

[Kurumi]

Why do you fear seven/mackoti team so much? From what I've gathered from your games (be it Pitboss 8 and PBEMs) you are quite good at CiV.