[SPOILERS] TT tries yet again to not be terrible

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well I guess you play it turn by turn then. can you estimate how many turns you are from liberalism?

[Twinkletoes89]

I reckon maybe 4. Got two more turns of research which would leave me about 4 turns short without the golden age. With the golden age, I reckon we could halve that.

[Twinkletoes89]

We have Rannoch! Probably half of RB dies of shock because I've actually taken a city in a war rather than lost one...

He had one LB in there, freshly whipped. Cost me more than I would like with 2 catapults and a Mace but we have it. Had to leave 2 maces behind in the city with the spear that finished off the red-lined L'bow because AT had 2 woodsman 3 maces that would likely have tried to pinch the city from me if I left it underdefended.

I'm hoping the next city is just as under-defended and then I think I'll probably hold with what I have. Not got enough troops to push any further than that really. Thankfully Jowy has left a lot of jungle & forest so I can move up to the city on those tiles and hold decent defensive odds.

We now have the AP, and now we are building wealth to get to Liberalism in 4 turns.

I really hope Cornflakes doesn't turn on me after finishing Azza off or just after taking Enderman because he could really hurt us. I want to hold off slavery until after Lib is in if I can manage it at all. Don't want to give up the research power of caste.

This is a potentially precarious or profitable time for us. I still think I'm not really in contention to win, but if I can get to musketeers unscathed I will feel a lot more secure.

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liberalism-guilds-gunpowder. thats all you need to kick some ass. don't be afraid to keep up the wealth builds after you land lib, until you have gunpowder . caste, too.

[Twinkletoes89]

Problem is that I can't run a small level of home defense with Cornflakes on one border and some competition with AT for Jowy's cities.

I will likely need to whip defenders at some point soon.

[Twinkletoes89]

Cornflakes picked up Nationalism this turn and we are still 3 turns from Liberalism. I think Taj is off the board for us really, but shall see how it goes before a decision has to be made. Will see if I can trade Education for it as they are the same amount of beakers.

Marching towards another Jowy city now, just got to hope he isn't making a stand there. I'm thinking he is putting everything in Eden Prime or his capital so it shouldn't be too scary, but who knows? Jowy is now getting propped up by Cornflakes and now has machinery, and probably engineering this turn. Why it took so long for them to make that decision I don't know...

Making one last use out of pacifism by starving out either a merchant or a scientist in 2 turns. Hoping for a merchant for some lovely research/upgrade cash.

AT is heading for guilds now, going to have to look to my defenses in case he takes an opportunistic stab at me. Not sure why he would, I think I'm at best fourth in likelihood to win behind him, Cornflakes and Commodore but who knows?

If I can trade for Nationalism, I really want to use liberalism on gunpowder for the sake of immediate security. I could swap straight into nationhood and draft out some Musketeers which will make me feel a heck of a lot more secure, especially against a potential Knight invasion.

[Twinkletoes89]

Cornflakes picked up Nationalism.

Traded it for Education + 50g + Map

So what shall we take with Liberalism in 2 turns?

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gunpowder?then just need drama and guilds

[Twinkletoes89]

Without being in the game I can't be sure, but I think we already have drama.

I agree on gunpowder then an immediate swap to Nationhood. Some drafted musketeers will help me feel a lot more secure.

Not sure why Cornflakes gave me Nationalism so quickly, either he doesn't care about the Taj or he's already got it secured...

Maybe that's why he wanted a reload so soon after gaining nationalism, something went wrong on overflow cascading or chopping which meant he couldn't one-turn it? I can't think of what else would be so crucial that they would desperately want to reload for, as it clearly wasn't a combat movement.

Either way, methinks Taj is a lost cause.

I'm worried about AT. If he decides to get pissy that I got to Rannoch first (he had 2 maces ready to have a crack at taking it - probably should have let him take down the longbow and then pinch it off him more cheaply) then he could have a crack at me. But I still think Jowy must be the prime target.

I offered Jowy a way out with peace plus a little bit of gold. He might be able to hold Feros with a bit of luck and if I can preserve my cats and last few maces until they can be joined by Musketeers and Knights, then I could have my doomstack to take a lot more. Now he's been teched up to Engineering too, I could do with getting out of the war until I have overwhelming force or AT bribes him first and I end up with Jowy's full force coming on me.

I've taken a city but otherwise done him little harm, that contents me for now.

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well start building it anyway. consolation prize of fail gold isn't bad, and you MIGHT get it. I agree it probably will be lost, but its not a sure thing.

are you building theatres? we need a plan to get the globe in high food city asap.