2 Rooms and a Boom: Main Thread [GAME OVER: Red Wins!]

[Lewwyn]

I didn't agree with him that you did us a favor. mattimeo gummed up the works.

Might be but the posts I quoted show that Lewwyn was not fixed on me being red ( which was what you implied in your previous post).

you were red friendly. you clearly had aligned with red on day 1.

I sincerely disagree with that. I thought Rowain was fairly neutral D1. He ended up doing what I wanted anyway, and Matt being sent a long was the best red to be sent with because he was the fugitive and couldn't full reveal with anyone, and couldn't really be sure of anyone.


And Rowain I understand the need to woo the greys. I'm fine with that. I never really got the chance though. D1 I still didn't know if you even were gray. D2 I wsan't in a room with you. D3 you were pretty clearly negative towards me, and I did try to convince you to work with us, but for some reason you kept acting like I was trying to screw you? I mean WTF am I supposed to do at that point. I literally stopped myself from going off at you D3 in order not to mess up any chance that you might work with us. And then you sent jowy and myself away, when we were the only blues who were talking to you. Obviously you just didn't want to argue with us. D4 and 5 I have to sit with Pindicator who's basically crying about being badly treated by the reds but he's going to vote with them anyway. WTF.

Whatever. This was pretty bullshit the moment Rowain was kingmaker. He doesn't play by anybody's rules, not even his own.

[Bigger]

Whatever. This was pretty bullshit the moment Rowain was kingmaker. He doesn't play by anybody's rules, not even his own.

this pretty much sums up Rowain

[pindicator]

Yeah, I guess my thought process deserves an explanation.

Day 1 - Jowy, I took you spilling my color like that as hostility.  To me that meant you were just going to take advantage of me every opportunity you could.  That colored everything you did for the rest of the game.

Day 2 send:  I was hoping to hit a homerun here.  I had sent in the order of Rowain, ichabod, and Jkaen almost immediately after I saw I was going to be elected leader.  My thought was that if blue wanted to stay in control of the bomb, then the best way for them to do that would be to send two blues and the bomb over.  Then it would have been me, the bomb, and the pres in the same room.  I didn't know how likely that scenario was, but I thought it would be worth swinging for the fences for.  I probably shouldn't have sent Ichabod, as the red team was right lost on days 3 & 4 without a strong leader in the Barracks.

Day 3 was a right mess, and I'll admit I played it badly.  I probably should have just come out with red at the beginning, because my plan all along was to "trick" blue into sending 1R1B with the bullshit line about maintaining the status quo.  All the while I was expecting red to send two red + the bomber, because that's what I got from ichabod.  Jkaen, I didn't remember you saying anything about a plan of sending the president, so that was just reading fail on my part if you put it in.  I was going off of what Ichabod said at the end of the day, that he would try to return day 4 if he could.  To me, that meant to expect two red's to come on day 4, which also meant I should try to send blue without sending the pres.  But then I played my "trick" because I wanted to have some fun, and also I could always hedge at the end in case things did go wrong.  But scooter figured out my "flawed" logic and at that point I couldn't vote blue.  But red had been dispirited by thinking I wasn't listening to them at all, and didn't even try (apart from Azza).  If Red would have had their votes on one person, and if that person had publicly put in a send order, I would have voted red.

In the end I just pissed off Blue for not voting with them, and I pissed off Red in the Barracks for not voting with them, and I pissed off red in the Control Room because the send looked like I had betrayed them to Blue.

So my thought process on Day 4 was that I realized being in a different room as the bomb, pres, and other grey, I had to do pretty much one thing to get my win condtion:  not piss off the group in power.  I fully expected Rowain to keep siding with Red because he had a win locked up, and send a blue over.  But if I sided with Red and sent a blue over, then I'm in a blue dominated room on the last day, and they'll just send me over as revenge since they couldn't control their own fate.  The only answer I could see was sending over a blue and siding with red.  That way we'd still have a balanced room of 4 red, 4 blue, and 1 grey, and I'd still hopefully be on red's good side and not be a candidate for the airlock.  So I argued that red needed to be sure that they got the bomb and pres together and that their best play was to get all the "maybe" candidates in the same room.  If I keep Qgqqqq set on sending jowy and then tasunke, then he wouldn't be sending me to the bomb: that was my thinking.

Of course, Rowain screwed with that on the last day.  I thought he was trying to just deny me a win, so all I wanted to do at that point was see him lose and thwart his "plan" of denying me a win.  That's why I cried and voted with red, Lewwyn.

[Rowain]

D3 you were pretty clearly negative towards me, and I did try to convince you to work with us, but for some reason you kept acting like I was trying to screw you? I mean WTF am I supposed to do at that point. I literally stopped myself from going off at you D3 in order not to mess up any chance that you might work with us. And then you sent jowy and myself away, when we were the only blues who were talking to you. Obviously you just didn't want to argue with us.

Lewwyn understand that I had no problem with you (except what i called a freudian slip ) but on D3 I had liitle choice but to sent 2 blues. I sent Jowy and you simple because I was in a hurry and your 2 names jumped to mind so yeah it had to two with you 2 talking but not in the way you read it. Of course you couldn't know that.

He doesn't play by anybody's rules, not even his own.

Now you got me interested: What do you believe are my rules and which of them did I break?

[Jkaen]

By the end of day 1 I had guessed Rowain was grey but didnt know. It got obvious day 2, and its there I think blue hurt themselves with pushing for info with giving nothing in return