WW24: The Ashes of Brigdarrow: VILLAGE WINS

[Lewwyn]

Actually we have replacement players in the wings yes? What about swapping tas out?

[Lewwyn]

I mean voting for him is worthless at this point. He hasn't posted so by voting for Tasunke who may not even know the game is up you are essentially throwing your vote away somewhere safe.

Matt and Azza why don't you actually do something so that people can get a read on you other wise I think we just lynch the pair of you.

[Lewwyn]

Mattimeo

and FOS: Zak for jumping to label Matt town

[zakalwe]

Serdoa and Lewwyn have been trying to make cases, and I don't think that's scummy.

As a general statement, I agree with that. That's why I call them superwolves. If they weren't trying to make cases they certainly wouldn't earn that moniker. A superwolf, just to make up a definition on the spot, is someone who can actively participate in the thread while staying in character, or close to it. It's hard, because every post requires so much more effort when you're a wolf. A player with a quiet baseline has an easier job, since he just needs to come up with a couple of good posts per day.

Not-so-super wolves generally either post less content than usual, or ham it up by spamming poor content.

If you want to get cynical about it, a superwolf is someone who's acting like he's town, but you still think he's scum.

If you want to get even more cynical, there's actually an easy test. If you lynch someone and he flips as a wolf, then he wasn't a superwolf.

@Lewwyn. Replacing Tasunke is an excellent idea, if the mod will allow it. (And I think he should.)

About Mattimeo, I didn't jump to label him town, or at least I didn't mean to do that. I just decided to include everybody in my ranking, for completeness. I stand by my "not particularly scummy" ranking, based on the few posts that he has made. Like I say though, it's easy to make a couple of good posts per day, so he could still be scum.

[Azza]

I mean voting for him is worthless at this point. He hasn't posted so by voting for Tasunke who may not even know the game is up you are essentially throwing your vote away somewhere safe.

Matt and Azza why don't you actually do something so that people can get a read on you other wise I think we just lynch the pair of you.

You're a hypocrite. You argue against lynching Tasunke because he hasn't contributed, then in the very next sentence you advocate lynching Matt and myself for not contributing. If you want to lynch non-contributors, there's no one contributing less than Tasunke.

[Rowain]

... Tasunke who may not even know the game is up

I'm rather sure he knows it is up because of this post in the pre-game thread (some hours before it really started but also some hours after the intro-posts in this threads)
Therefor I would be fine with replacing him if he doesn't show up till DL or has not yet told the GM that he is deliberately not posting. In the meantime I hope it is nothing serious that stops him from playing .

[Gazglum]

If he hasn't shown up by Lewwyn/Azza/my morning, I would like to replace him too, preferably before any of us are sent to the lurker thread.

[Lewwyn]

I mean voting for him is worthless at this point. He hasn't posted so by voting for Tasunke who may not even know the game is up you are essentially throwing your vote away somewhere safe.

Matt and Azza why don't you actually do something so that people can get a read on you other wise I think we just lynch the pair of you.

You're a hypocrite. You argue against lynching Tasunke because he hasn't contributed, then in the very next sentence you advocate lynching Matt and myself for not contributing. If you want to lynch non-contributors, there's no one contributing less than Tasunke.

Are you kidding me? There is a difference between lynching someone who has not even posted in the thread once and therefore is not responding to pressure and lynching someone who is in the thread and actively avoiding taking a stance on players who are playing. So don't fucking tell me I'm a hypocrite.

[Serdoa]

I mean voting for him is worthless at this point. He hasn't posted so by voting for Tasunke who may not even know the game is up you are essentially throwing your vote away somewhere safe.

Matt and Azza why don't you actually do something so that people can get a read on you other wise I think we just lynch the pair of you.

You're a hypocrite. You argue against lynching Tasunke because he hasn't contributed, then in the very next sentence you advocate lynching Matt and myself for not contributing. If you want to lynch non-contributors, there's no one contributing less than Tasunke.

That's wrong Azza. He argues against putting votes on Tasunke because doing that is just using the easy way out, helping the voter by not having to make a case, due to Tasunke not being around. Which in turn makes it impossible to actually read anything into the result and/or vote. That's not the case with your nor Matt. You are around, you could contribute. You simply decide not to or when you do then only to "revenge-vote" your voters. Have you actually made even one post on someones posts up to now EXCEPT for those players that voted for you?

Tbh, I am looking at the other cases and consider their value - but then you post and I think "yeah, another post that is scummy as hell...". The above post for example reads for me as if you deliberately misunderstood Lewwyn, just so you could call him out on arguing your lynch. Which btw is yet another player that you "attack" because he finds you scummy. And again you have not used the chance to actually contribute anything more than just attacking your voters.

[Azza]

I mean voting for him is worthless at this point. He hasn't posted so by voting for Tasunke who may not even know the game is up you are essentially throwing your vote away somewhere safe.

Matt and Azza why don't you actually do something so that people can get a read on you other wise I think we just lynch the pair of you.

You're a hypocrite. You argue against lynching Tasunke because he hasn't contributed, then in the very next sentence you advocate lynching Matt and myself for not contributing. If you want to lynch non-contributors, there's no one contributing less than Tasunke.

Are you kidding me? There is a difference between lynching someone who has not even posted in the thread once and therefore is not responding to pressure and lynching someone who is in the thread and actively avoiding taking a stance on players who are playing. So don't fucking tell me I'm a hypocrite.

Yes, there is a difference. That's not what you were talking about. Your argument was that Matt and I weren't doing enough to get a good read on us. Tasunke has done nothing, you have even less of a read on him, but you're happy to ignore him. That's what makes you a hypocrite, and I stand by that statement. Your argument is hypocritical.

I mean voting for him is worthless at this point. He hasn't posted so by voting for Tasunke who may not even know the game is up you are essentially throwing your vote away somewhere safe.

Matt and Azza why don't you actually do something so that people can get a read on you other wise I think we just lynch the pair of you.

You're a hypocrite. You argue against lynching Tasunke because he hasn't contributed, then in the very next sentence you advocate lynching Matt and myself for not contributing. If you want to lynch non-contributors, there's no one contributing less than Tasunke.

That's wrong Azza. He argues against putting votes on Tasunke because doing that is just using the easy way out, helping the voter by not having to make a case, due to Tasunke not being around. Which in turn makes it impossible to actually read anything into the result and/or vote. That's not the case with your nor Matt. You are around, you could contribute. You simply decide not to or when you do then only to "revenge-vote" your voters. Have you actually made even one post on someones posts up to now EXCEPT for those players that voted for you?

Tbh, I am looking at the other cases and consider their value - but then you post and I think "yeah, another post that is scummy as hell...". The above post for example reads for me as if you deliberately misunderstood Lewwyn, just so you could call him out on arguing your lynch. Which btw is yet another player that you "attack" because he finds you scummy. And again you have not used the chance to actually contribute anything more than just attacking your voters.

Ok, so I'm not posting enough to get a read, but you're read on me is that I'm scummy. That makes perfect sense.