WW24: The Ashes of Brigdarrow: VILLAGE WINS

[Azza]

Brick_Astley, for now.

(Quoting this post because it's a more reasonable size instead of the one that was immediately above it that respoonded to my case.)

It's not the consoling of Brick that seemed scummy in of itself. It was how forced it looked, not at all natural. Like a wolf feeling guilty that he was pushing someone innocent who was reacting none too pleased further towards being lynched.

The Tasunke stuff was more circumstantial addition, rather than being core to the case.

You've done nothing to dissuade the impression that you're sitting on the fence though. You claimed suspicion of Brick, myself and Jkaen. That's not really your suspicions, that more of a list of people who had received votes to that point in the day except yourself. After that, Ichabod gets a vote, and suddenly he's also suspicious to you. Your likely villager choices aren't particularly brave choices either, and you seemed very careful not to be too certain in your statements of support for either Zak ("if he's scum, he's totally fooled me") or Serdoa ("pegged as fully town" revised down to "townish").

[Gazglum]

Brick_Astley, for now.

(Quoting this post because it's a more reasonable size instead of the one that was immediately above it that respoonded to my case.)

It's not the consoling of Brick that seemed scummy in of itself. It was how forced it looked, not at all natural. Like a wolf feeling guilty that he was pushing someone innocent who was reacting none too pleased further towards being lynched.

The Tasunke stuff was more circumstantial addition, rather than being core to the case.

You've done nothing to dissuade the impression that you're sitting on the fence though. You claimed suspicion of Brick, myself and Jkaen. That's not really your suspicions, that more of a list of people who had received votes to that point in the day except yourself. After that, Ichabod gets a vote, and suddenly he's also suspicious to you. Your likely villager choices aren't particularly brave choices either, and you seemed very careful not to be too certain in your statements of support for either Zak ("if he's scum, he's totally fooled me") or Serdoa ("pegged as fully town" revised down to "townish").

Alright Azza, I'll go out on a limb.

I BELIEVE ZAK IS VILLAGE SO HELP ME GOD.

It's hard to be as full-throated in support for Serdoa, who is currently trying to dig my grave.

Ichabod isn't hugely suspicious to me. I think that, given the way Realms Beyond Day 1s usually play out, it is likely that one of the quieter posters are a wolf, and so Ichabod is worth investigating. He's been pretty much left alone so far this game, and I don't think his posts are townish enough to warrant that.

I voted Brick all yesterday, that's not fence sitting. As for you, maybe it's your general air of scumminess that is the problem, rather than my 'bravery'. (Said with love, Azza. With love).

[zakalwe]

My Rowain vote was a bit of a probe, but after seeing his reaction to it, I'm pretty happy with my vote.

That said, Brick isn't delivering on his promises. Ever since the middle of day 1, his posts have been consistent with scum doing damage control. Apart from counterattacking one of his main accusers, he hasn't made any cases or given us anything, minimizing the number of clues that he leaves behind. So as far as I'm concerned, his next set of posts have to make a dramatic improvement in terms of content if he wants to avoid the noose.

[Rowain]

Yeah, you said the above, which didn't clarify much. You didn't care who hanged, but you still chose Tasunke.

That is true. I didn't care who of those 2 went to the gallows and I still think Tas was the better one. So yes given the same day and actions again I would vote exactly the same.

I don't see why his behavior should point towards him being SK.

That is not my fault. I expected better from you.

It's just one more unconvincing theory from you, similar to the "Azza didn't know he was scum" theory. You keep insisting that Tasunke was suspicious, though.

You do note that I didn't vote for Azza right? Meditate about the difference and perhaps enlightenment will struck you.

For my part, I as under no illusion that Tasunke was likely scum. But in the end, I thought there was reasonable doubt about Brick, and nobody deserved to hang before Tasunke. Mislynching Brick and being stuck with Tasunke still alive would have been painful.

I still view Brick as the most likely scum, but at least we now get another day to debate it and can make a slightly more informed decision. Also, we made him commit to "making it up to us", so we know that he can't just "defend" by clamming up.

So you still view BRick as most likely scum but still prefered to lynch someone whom you absolutly believed to be a villager?? Really ? Whom do you try to sell this BS?
Either you are scum yourself (again) or your line about BRick and Tasunke is simple not true. Are you telling this story to yourself or only to us zak?

[Azza]

Alright Azza, I'll go out on a limb.

I BELIEVE ZAK IS VILLAGE SO HELP ME GOD.

It's hard to be as full-throated in support for Serdoa, who is currently trying to dig my grave.

Ichabod isn't hugely suspicious to me. I think that, given the way Realms Beyond Day 1s usually play out, it is likely that one of the quieter posters are a wolf, and so Ichabod is worth investigating. He's been pretty much left alone so far this game, and I don't think his posts are townish enough to warrant that.

I voted Brick all yesterday, that's not fence sitting. As for you, maybe it's your general air of scumminess that is the problem, rather than my 'bravery'. (Said with love, Azza. With love).

What about Jkaen? Why'd you happen to find him suspicious?

Honestly, right now the only thing that could save you from my vote is Brick's continued avoidance of contributing, or some sort of calamitous error from one of our scum.

[zakalwe]

I don't see why his behavior should point towards him being SK.

That is not my fault. I expected better from you.

What, you expected me to see the signs that Tasunke was a SK? Well, I didn't, I still don't, and he wasn't.

I've said all along that I didn't view Tasunke as likely scum. That's what made it a policy lynch. Otherwise it would just be a plain old lynch. You're the one who was stretching to find reasons to justify the lynch, by calling him scummy.

Your SK theory was that he wouldn't know what to do with the role, and therefore he would just suicide by going AWOL. It's pretty rich to berate me for missing that "sign".

[zakalwe]

someone whom you absolutly believed to be a villager

This is a clear and deliberate misrepresentation of my stance.

[Rowain]

Your SK theory was that he wouldn't know what to do with the role, and therefore he would just suicide by going AWOL. It's pretty rich to berate me for missing that "sign".

You played (as I did) in the AitP-game where he was king and played it equally strange so yes I expected you do pick that up especially after I made it clear that it is not a pure policy-lynch for me.

someone whom you absolutly believed to be a villager

This is a clear and deliberate misrepresentation of my stance.

OK scratch the absolutly. The fact remains that you claim that you didn't see Tas as scum but believed and still believe that BRick is scum. So why did you vote for someone whom you didn't see as scum over someone whom you believed scummy?

[Jkaen]

Rowain, how many times does he have to type the words policy lynch?

Are you getting worried that the lynch may form agaisnt you and just trying to bore your opponents into submission?

[Rowain]

Rowain, how many times does he have to type the words policy lynch?

Hello Jkaen for you slowly and explicitly again:
I Know that he said policy-lynch. I'm questioning his better to policy-lynch someone he believed a villager than lynchiung someone he believed (and still believes ) scummy.

BTW How is your search through the old games going? Do you now believe that I do usually switch votes several times on D1 or not?