(May 27th, 2013, 02:19)Azza Wrote: What about Jkaen? Why'd you happen to find him suspicious?
Honestly, right now the only thing that could save you from my vote is Brick's continued avoidance of contributing, or some sort of calamitous error from one of our scum.
I thought Jkaen was focusing too hard on too specific a meta case, ie: IF 1+ Doctor AND IF Doctor protects Novice THEN scum must be ballsy to take the shot. Plus, to be honest, Zakalwe voted him and I was a bit sheep-ish.
I think Jkaen's followup attack on Rowain while I was asleep was more worthwhile, and I have put him back in the neutral basket.
I'm sorry that our home-city ties are not enough to win your friendship Azza. If you're set on voting me regardless, I'm not sure what you want from me. I would ask you, what is it about my votes (Joke vote Lewwyn, pressure vote Novice, Brick, Ichabod) that you find so much more suspicious than, say, Rowain's or Mattimeo's?
Meanwhile, it looks like 'fight-picking Rowain' is back. For what it's worth, I think there was merit in trying to balance the Brick/Tasunke votes and see how other people reacted. Rowain strikes me as someone who cares more about his own analysis than about 'appearing town', so if he were innocent, I can see him doing that for his own calculations.
It's the (what appeared to be) forced consoling that makes you more suspicious IMO. I have no quarrel with your reasoning behind your votes, but they mostly seem to have been easy cases, and it has taken further questioning to get you to justify those cases.
I'm not set on voting you, but I'm satisfied with the case against you, and so want to keep the pressure on you.
(May 26th, 2013, 02:49)zakalwe Wrote: For my part, I as under no illusion that Tasunke was likely scum. But in the end, I thought there was reasonable doubt about Brick, and nobody deserved to hang before Tasunke. Mislynching Brick and being stuck with Tasunke still alive would have been painful.
I still view Brick as the most likely scum, but at least we now get another day to debate it and can make a slightly more informed decision. Also, we made him commit to "making it up to us", so we know that he can't just "defend" by clamming up.
Maybe I should do like Gazglum and put it in my signature.
(May 27th, 2013, 02:59)Rowain Wrote: You played (as I did) in the AitP-game where he was king and played it equally strange so yes I expected you do pick that up especially after I made it clear that it is not a pure policy-lynch for me.
I see what you're getting at here, and I guess I'll accept it as a somewhat credible reason for suspecting Tasunke based on his silence. That doesn't mean it isn't a manufactured reason, though. But it helps your case a little.
The reason I don't personally agree with the comparison, is that Tasunke was the king in that game, and had to fear giving that away through interaction tells (and all the guards had the same fear, for that matter). It's very similar to playing mafia. Playing SK is different, though, since you're playing solo to begin with and don't have to fear giving away your buddies. So if anything, if you expected him to be scum based on exhibiting similar behavior, then you should expect him to be mafia, and not a SK.
And just to get completely sidetracked, Tasunke's play as a king wasn't actually all that bad in that game, according to Ichabod, the assassin. Turns out, a lot of that was actually in the heads of all the guards, and we could have won that game if we weren't all so convinced that the assassin must see right through Tasunke.
(May 27th, 2013, 03:55)zakalwe Wrote: Rowain and Azza, since you're both around, who do you suspect other than Gazglum?
I'm currently leaning more town on him, or at least not mafia. He keeps volunteering reads and is leaving a pretty fat trail if he's mafia.
Slowcheetah and Ichabod are doing rather the opposite, so I hope they reappear soon.
I'm making a tally now.
Who else do I suspect? I think I've made it clear I'm not a fan of Brick's play, but I'm willing to give him a chance to explain himself. I don't want to judge slowcheetah vs Ichabod right now, neither have really done anything notably suspicious to me, but I hope for more from them soon.
On the other end of the scale, Mattimeo feels pretty normal, as does Serdoa.
But basically, don't want to get distracted from Gazglum v Brick unless a good alternative pops up/
I'll do a more thorough reread later in the afternoon (hopefully, for a bank holiday my day is bloody busy).
Ichabod disappearing is annoying. I remember wolfing with him once and he was pretty talkative as a wolf and is as a villager, so a dissappearing Ichabod probably means he's busy rather than skulking in the shadows. Just when someone else got interested in killing him dammit.
I agree with Lewwyn that Bricks complete lack of an analysis yet again screams scum.
Gazglum is leaning town in my eyes, he's posting his reads and certainly putting forward more arguments then other lynch candidates.
Rowain is being a little 'deflective' in his defense, forcing extra research etc (although I suppose the punishment fits the crime because Jkaen tried to stitch him up with Azza). In my opinion he's still probing for answers though. Perhaps a serial killer? Although that would mean we'd have to have a doctor who successfully protected someone last night.
(May 27th, 2013, 03:41)zakalwe Wrote: It's very similar to playing mafia. Playing SK is different, though, since you're playing solo to begin with and don't have to fear giving away your buddies. So if anything, if you expected him to be scum based on exhibiting similar behavior, then you should expect him to be mafia, and not a SK.
Here we disagree. If he is mafia he has at least one buddy who can console him or tell him to post. If he is SK he is lonely. I remembered thestick who quit playing his SK and got modkilled on day 3 because it was no fun for him.
(May 27th, 2013, 03:55)zakalwe Wrote: Rowain and Azza, since you're both around, who do you suspect other than Gazglum?
Slowcheetah and Ichabod are doing rather the opposite, so I hope they reappear soon.
I don't know. Ichabod is unusual silent. I can't fit it to him being mafia or him beeing a PR or him beeing town. That would only leave SK but given we had just 1 NK I'm reluctant to lynch him.
SC has mostly done revenge-voting yesterday. Especially his first one vs me right after gamestart is a bit strange but else nothing I could lay my hands on.
BRick depends if he finds time to contribute. He is strong runner for the gallow although he has just one vote now.
