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WW24: The Ashes of Brigdarrow: VILLAGE WINS

If you are wondering whether I'm only going to vote for you tomrrow, I haven't decided.
“The wind went mute and the trees in the forest stood still. It was time for the last tale.”
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(May 28th, 2013, 02:49)Rowain Wrote: And now to those that have no vote on them at the moment: Ichabod, Lewwyn, Serdoa (and Gazglum but he looks far more villagerish to me right now)

From those I have the strongest wolf-lean surprisingly on Serdoa. In ww17 he was scum and also considered a villager. Only a lucky shot from the SK saved us there.

(May 28th, 2013, 02:50)Rowain Wrote: Serdoa

(May 28th, 2013, 02:51)zakalwe Wrote: Great minds think alike. I was about to ask you "What about Serdoa?"

(May 28th, 2013, 02:51)Rowain Wrote: A note about Serdoa. He pushed hard (and successful) for an Mattimeo lynch there too

(May 28th, 2013, 02:53)zakalwe Wrote: By elimination it does make sense.

Serdoa

(May 28th, 2013, 02:55)Azza Wrote: Serdoa to save myself.

Quoting to put it all in one space, how in the world did this lead to a lynch? lol

(May 28th, 2013, 03:54)Rowain Wrote: I know that you try to forget WW17 as much as you can. But Serdoa did his 'scumhunting' there too. As said looking who is left or not made me think about Serdoa and his scum-play then. Not to mention that there was another (very small) hint increasing Serdoas scumchances.

What was this other hint besides the previous-game feeling? I don't think you ever offered that up, just stated that you had it.
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Doesnt work right for me
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And as soon as I say that it works, so disregard.
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(May 28th, 2013, 03:42)Lewwyn Wrote: Unless you are scum I don't know why you go after Serdoa in that final scenario.

Lewwyn, do I understand you correctly that you're retracting the above?

(May 28th, 2013, 10:37)Lewwyn Wrote:
(May 28th, 2013, 10:33)zakalwe Wrote: To be clear. Would you still suspect me the same?

If you had stayed on Brick I would have suspected you. If Serdoa had been innocent then I wouldn't know there was an SK and I wouldn't have suspected you as much. But its hard to say because I can't unknow there was an SK in the game. I will say that my suspicion of you was in limbo when I got home to see what had happened and was waiting for the actual result.

Because what you're saying here is that I'm only suspicious because Serdoa flipped as SK, or specifically because we now know there was a SK. Switching from Brick to an innocent Serdoa would have been fine in your eyes. The thing is, I didn't know there was an SK in the game, and even if I were scum, I still wouldn't know that. Yet you're saying that the now revealed presence of a SK means that I must be mafia hunting for the SK. It's not a very logical argument. If it's reasonable for scum Zak to suspect Serdoa of being SK, then surely it must also be reasonable for town Zak to suspect Serdoa of being scum? I mean, even if I were scum and hunting for the SK, I wouldn't know who the SK was, so I would still have to do actual scumhunting in order to nail him, no? (Yeah, my head is spinning, too. crazyeye)

Anyway, I explained my Serdoa switch already, but perhaps you (and Ichabod) should also consider my post shortly before that, to get the context:

(May 28th, 2013, 02:22)zakalwe Wrote:
(May 28th, 2013, 02:18)Azza Wrote: If we get a positive lynch out of this it'll be a miracle.

So true. lol

I'll go back to Brick. I can feel that my distrust for him is pretty deeply ingrained by now, so if we do end up with another mislynch I'd prefer it to be him.

I'm pretty clearly starting to resign myself to a mislynch there. In that context, I don't think it should be so surprising that I was willing to risk a late swing to lynch Serdoa. And bear in mind, even if you listed Serdoa as clearly innocent, I never said anything of the sort. I ranked him as a potential superwolf on day 1 and I never retracted that.

In fact, I have to appreciate the irony. Yesterday I was catching heat for not realizing that Tasunke was the SK, and today I'm catching heat for not realizing that Serdoa was innocent. smile
If you know what I mean.
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Ichabod, what is bad about my explanation for voting Serdoa?

For the greater good, you really shouldn't waste your time on me tomorrow. And yeah, I'll probably still be here. I bet the scum will be so annoyed by my arrogance that they'll keep me around.
If you know what I mean.
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I'll answer questions after the end of the night. I really don't think you'll be losing much if I get eaten without giving my insights. lol
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(May 28th, 2013, 16:31)zakalwe Wrote: The thing is, I didn't know there was an SK in the game, and even if I were scum, I still wouldn't know that. Yet you're saying that the now revealed presence of a SK means that I must be mafia hunting for the SK. It's not a very logical argument.

If you were scum and HADN'T targeted Novice, you'd know there was a serial killer. It's not like you to not think through all the options Zak.
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Lynching villager Serdoa would also be a pretty good result for the Mafia. There was no chance he'd be lynched with everybody around (heck, he got three votes and got lynched). So, maybe it was just Mafia taking advantage of an unique opportunity.

"Sorry to see you go, Serdoa frown" - Zak

"I'm dumb! banghead" - Rowain

Day 3

"What about Mattimeo?" - Zak

"What about BRick?" - Rowain

See, it'd be just gain, no loss. Next day, you'd return to the usual mislynches.

But I caught the wolves!!!1

You're going down!!
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