[LURKER THREAD] WW24: Whispers of the Dead

[uberfish]

Congrats village.

I don't think the setup is anti-scum - in my opinion anyway, the general quality of scum play here has caught up with village play, so village does need its PRs to have a fair shot at winning.

[BRickAstley]

Well, we could develop our own version of that setup that would be considered "more fair", it shouldn't be too hard to have a few people try and balance one out.

Uberfish, are you up for hosting this next one or do we need to find someone else?

[Azza]

Didn't seem unfair to me.

[Bigger]

I think the setups fine the way it is. we don't always have to reinvent the wheel here.

[Serdoa]

I think the point is that scum doesn't seem to get adjusted depending on the number of village PRs. That's not about fairness, that's about it being "illogical" that for example 7T is faced with no village PRs while 5T is faced with 2 village PRs. But both have a Goon + Godfather + SK setup on the scum-side. So "obviously" 5T is harder for scum than 7T. One could of course argue that the Godfather is in a 7T setup just a standard mafia-guy as there is no one to scan him, but that could be true in the 5T setup as well.

Anyhow, I think the game ended not for setup imbalances the way it did but simply for village getting really, really lucky (and seriously scum not playing it all that great, I mean seriously, you try to kill Rowain N1? And when you fail you try it again N3 - after the SK has been revealed and it is obvious that it can't have been his possible 1-shot NK-immunity?)

As for a new game: I am considering hosting one, but I am thinking about the setup currently and aren't sure if I can make what I want.

[slowcheetah]

Anyhow, I think the game ended not for setup imbalances the way it did but simply for village getting really, really lucky (and seriously scum not playing it all that great, I mean seriously, you try to kill Rowain N1? And when you fail you try it again N3 - after the SK has been revealed and it is obvious that it can't have been his possible 1-shot NK-immunity?)

We went after Lewwyn, and I'm not denying we played badly but I don't think the nightkill on Lewwyn was an awful mistake. To my mind there was Lewwyn, Zakalwe, Novice and yourself, all who would've made good candidates for doctoring night 1. Zakalwe arguably looked the most innocent and you yourself went after Novice.

[Rowain]

I think the point is that scum doesn't seem to get adjusted depending on the number of village PRs. That's not about fairness, that's about it being "illogical" that for example 7T is faced with no village PRs while 5T is faced with 2 village PRs.

Correct. The illogical aspect is what makes me wonder.

Anyhow, I think the game ended not for setup imbalances the way it did but simply for village getting really, really lucky

Brilliant guesswork and 'great Minds think alike' you mean .

lucky pfff no respect the youngsters have

[uberfish]

I'm still too busy to GM for a couple of weeks. I could play a seat of my pants game and possibly get policy lynched

[Qgqqqqq]

I can host the same thing again - this time with less effort - if wanted.

[novice]

I can host the same thing again - this time with less effort - if wanted.

I'd play.