WW25 - Game Thread

[zakalwe]

I cross-posted with Rowain's vote. All aboard!

Ichabod

[Lewwyn]

About Jowy, I would say that being weird on day one is pretty typical for a noob villager. Being quiet is more typical for a noob wolf. But please try to be less cryptic, Jowy. Just give us your honest thoughts, not that "remember this lesson" BS.

Joey isn't a noob. The only reason he hasn't been playing more games with us is he didn't realize that WW was forum mafia. He's played it elsewhere.

[novice]

I'm at a 3-day wedding, where phone browsing is frowned upon. I won't have time to participate properly until day two, unfortunately. From what I'be read, Uberfish.

[novice]

Uberfish

[zakalwe]

I'm in if the instructions are clear (would be my first WW game).

Ok, I was just going by the above. Now that you mention it, I remember his WW=Mafia epiphany, but I'm not sure that means he's played a lot of mafia.

Anyway, his "it's important to be unpredictable" defense is terrible. I'll give you that.

[slowcheetah]

You like how slowcheetah has only attacked people that attack him too, uber?

Narcissism :P? With pressure already being applied I'd be a lowhanging first target for the wolves. primarily because I'm not actually very good.

"so far" meaning one post rolleye

Let's see... my day in a nutshell: I confused MJW with MNG, and saw the same kind of squirming wolf that reminded me of my first game. Still voting for MJW, btw.

I pointed out that Lewwyn was wrong when he said Brick had violated his PR and voted for Brick for that reason. Yes, I did that with questions instead of stating "Brick didn't violate his PR"

I tried to get a handle on the Zak <-> Brick exchange, due to a misinterpreation of what Brick told Zak, to see if anything was there. Turns out I just misunderstood Brick's pictures. (Btw Zak - can you tell me what you thought that string of pictures I misunderstood meant? I'd ask Brick, but... well, Brick, if you can think of a different way to explain that would be nice too.)

And then when I suggested slowcheetah was trying a bit too hard to act helpful, he attacks me

Right now I want to stay on MJW because regardless of my mixup, I still want to hear him tlak and not see him disappear after a few votes go on him. I'm pretty trusting of Brick so far, and by extension that means Zak now too. Slowcheetah I think looks more scummy than not so far. And I would like to dig into the Jowy posts and see what others have noticed there. But tomorrow, after I've slept off this bug a bit (and I feel like it's on the mend, finally -- damn thing's been with me since Monday).

There ya go, Day 1 from me so far. You'll have to forgive me for not finding any obvwolves yet.

You still haven't commited anything here though. You say you want to remain on MJW for the pressure and to hear him talk, but as I remember he a) doesn't have a problem talking anyway and b) the pressure seems slightly obsoleted by the big bandwagons currently rolling on myself and Jowy.
The other candidate you suggest is scummy is myself. A villager who is under severe pressure and where your vote might start making cracks. Why wander off down the garden path with MJW at this point?

Uberfish

If you find a wedding free moment, why Uberfish? It may be because he has agreed with my points but I haven't seen any scumtells.

Additionally, I like the case for Jowy stated by many people, but I think best explained by Gazglum. At this moment I'd be happy to vote for either him or pindicator, but would prefer pindicator.

[uberfish]

About Jowy, I would say that being weird on day one is pretty typical for a noob villager. Being quiet is more typical for a noob wolf. But please try to be less cryptic, Jowy. Just give us your honest thoughts, not that "remember this lesson" BS.

Joey isn't a noob. The only reason he hasn't been playing more games with us is he didn't realize that WW was forum mafia. He's played it elsewhere.

Zak's post is pretty much my reasoning for not voting Jowy earlier. I didn't say it out loud because I wanted jowy to feel some pressure to contribute. If he isn't a noob though, then it means he can still be running a scum ploy.

Don't like this last post of novice because of timing. Zak posts a page or two back saying he doesn't like one of my posts and novice decides to vote me without any explanation. If novice is wolf and zak is town I can definitely see novice doing this to try and start a fight between zak and myself.

[slowcheetah]

Looking through the case against Ichabod is interesting as well. I believe it was Rowain who stated that his last vote for pindicator had no reasoning:

Zak, i already posted my reason. It's more of a feel off his posts, and how it reminds me of a prior wolf game of his.

Question back at ya: after your back and forth with Brick, what's your thoughts on him and his accusation on you?

Pindicator.

If he's a wolf it's cleverer then that. The message is confusing, there are multiple different interpretations of the image, and no thorough explanation. Therefore:

1) Ichabod's posts encourages people to look back at pindicators posts
2) If something suspicious springs out they are more likely to come to the conclusion that is what the picture meant and agree with Ichabod.

As I type this I realise that occams razor suggest it more likely the Ichabod also wanted to have fun with pictures. He also feels more like villager Ichabod than the long, wordy wolfabod I played with once.

[Qgqqqqq]

Narcissism ? With pressure already being applied I'd be a lowhanging first target for the wolves. primarily because I'm not actually very good.

Then why is pindicater not voting you? You seem to be assuming that wolves are targeting you for a mislynch, when in reality, as a wolf you just try just to blend in, not to cause a mislynch. That means you react to suspicious things people say, not try to contrive lynchs.
That probably doesn't make any sense...what I'm saying is that wolves wouldn't target you, and that I find your defence against your cases being targeted only at those who are attacking you weak. Particularly seeing as you follow it with a weak (and self-dismissed, therefore bringing it up without attaching oneself to a potential wagon [meaning suspicion is provided, showing activity and sowing doubts without being associated with the movement]) case on Ichabod which seems as though you're more concerned with protecting reputation then actual scum hunting.

[slowcheetah]

Narcissism ? With pressure already being applied I'd be a lowhanging first target for the wolves. primarily because I'm not actually very good.

Then why is pindicater not voting you? You seem to be assuming that wolves are targeting you for a mislynch, when in reality, as a wolf you just try just to blend in, not to cause a mislynch. That means you react to suspicious things people say, not try to contrive lynchs.
That probably doesn't make any sense...what I'm saying is that wolves wouldn't target you, and that I find your defence against your cases being targeted only at those who are attacking you weak. Particularly seeing as you follow it with a weak (and self-dismissed, therefore bringing it up without attaching oneself to a potential wagon [meaning suspicion is provided, showing activity and sowing doubts without being associated with the movement]) case on Ichabod which seems as though you're more concerned with protecting reputation then actual scum hunting.

I think that I am a logical target for wolves to test the waters with. They have to attack someobody after all. Posts directed at me get my attention, and I tend to go back and look at their arguments more thoroughly. I believe 5 people are voting for me right now, NOT including pindicator, but he was the one whose postings seemed the most suspicious.

I looked at Ichabod, thought about it for a bit and reckoned that he was a less likely wolf than Jowy or Pindicator, in fact he still feels more village to me. Posting my thought process clearly makes me an evildoer.