WW25 - Game Thread

[zakalwe]

Is there any particular reason to assume that Azza was working alone?

I regret not asking Rowain why he thought Slowcheetah was innocent. Because he still seems like a good lynch to me.

Slowcheetah

[Jowy]

last moment change not wolf plot
too obvious and i think nothing to gain

mjw: villager
jowy: villager
uberfish: villager, if wolf he vote jowy because jowy villager too but had more vote than mjw. wolf not risk death just to kill scummier target. also vote to jowy easier to explain. im confident that wolf would vote jowy.
pindicator: unsure. plays like wolf. but outburst feel real. frustration could be from being wolf killed day 1. need to demonstrate ability.

thats why i think mjw train not wolf plot. pindicator already safe by that point, remaining three all villager.
which is reason why ichabod villager. honest mistake. vote result change nothing, wolf would not bother.


lets look at other:

slowcheetah: hard one. would be good target yes. but hunch says pindi or slowcheetah one wolf, not both. which one? rowain best contribution and play, he trust slowcheetah, i put weight to his word.
novice: big red flag. wedding probably real, but doesnt mean not wolf. needs to contribute or we swing.
zakalwe: contribute a lot. keep alive. keep eye on misdirection. lynch immediately when starts look like we losing game.
brick: who fuck cares, stop read his post, waste of time. cant explain anything. wolf or really bad at bringing point across in picture. also bad at following PR, put text in one pic.
mattimeo: near zero contribution, target all villager (which wolf with big post count would not do, it'd be obvious, but low might, easier to defend), which two i know are 100% villager (mjw and me).
jkaen: zero contribution, no idea
gazglum: some good contribution, but something feels off. his posts show he is smart. but he tunnel vision, and contributions dont feel deep. right away tried to make me reveal role when he think i had big role. wolf trying to establish place as villager is my call.
Q: his post tone scream villager. anyone know if Q good liar?
lewwyn: against mjw and jowy from beginning, especially mjw. pulls arguments out of air. villager try to find if others wolf or villager, not forge false evidence. mjw was villager, and im too. on other hand, change mind about jowy before others. i think being too harsh against mjw at beginning is wolf giveaway, other things could be explained.

im ready to change mind for good reasons. these are thoughts after day 1.
most sure about one thing.. mattimeo

not sure if big post smart, but curious to see consequence.
discuss plz.

[zakalwe]

Jowy. If you're just a vanilla villager, and not post restricted, how come you can't post an ordinary sentence?

Please answer this question, Jowy.

[Jowy]

already answered earlier in thread.
if i play every game same way, i become predictable.
please dont focus too much on it, already distract us too much first day.

[BRickAstley]

Please note that I edited the sanity-number into the night write-up. Sanity is at 18 currently.

[BRickAstley]

already answered earlier in thread.
if i play every game same way, i become predictable.
please dont focus too much on it, already distract us too much first day.

[Jowy]

I think wolves are likely to be much more careful about their postings than MJW is.

I think Day 1 has played out enough times with vocal people being hanged for perceived slip ups, wolf or town, that wolves are likely to lay low. So I'm wary of players who haven't posted much yet.

quote is from early in day one. he says that, then he spends entire day targeting loudest strangest player.
i dont see any reason for villager to say thats their philosophy then do opposite thing.

[BRickAstley]

I think wolves are likely to be much more careful about their postings than MJW is.

I think Day 1 has played out enough times with vocal people being hanged for perceived slip ups, wolf or town, that wolves are likely to lay low. So I'm wary of players who haven't posted much yet.

quote is from early in day one. he says that, then he spends entire day targeting loudest strangest player.
i dont see any reason for villager to say thats their philosophy then do opposite thing.

[pindicator]

I agree with that last one brick. Gazglum, what are your thoughts? I remember the last time I thought you were abnormally silent day 1 in a game was when you ended up being the president in 2R&1B.

[novice]

And later indicated that he can post once sanity level wents up or down (here)

Ok not all those images loaded the first time... I see where that interpretation comes from now. Hmm.

unvote for now

Zak is right that I've missed this post. That post explains the incongruity in this post:

Anyone else having trouble with the forum lagging?

Anyway, MJW because I find his reason for voting Brick very contrived. Makes it feel that either he's trying too hard to have a justification for the vote, or he has inside info on the sanity mechanics which is more likely to come from a wolf as they have multiple team members sharing info.

Zak, to clarify, are you voting for SC because you agree with Q?

...that is, assuming the first post I quoted isn't clever backpedaling. I'm not sure how Uberfish could miss the sanity aspect of BRick's roleclaim, it was discussed in quite a lot of posts (that didn't use images):

Can you lose this PR by any way you know (for example novices [fake] PR that was lost after killing a wolf)?

The day starts...

The towns overall sanity is currently at 20.

(Sanity is a mechanic that influences several roles and that will be announced at the start of every new day. What affected it will only be known to the gods though.)

Do you know its sanity based, or suspect?

Anyway I think Brick's roleclaim is BS. This is because he claims he cannot post because the town's sanity is too low. However, I think sanity is not based on the day but on other factors. This means that Brick can be locked out from ever posting words if the sanity stays too low. This would be a very unfun role and I don't think Serdoa likes unfun roles (remember him being possessed in ww2...)

I didn't read Brick's hieroglyphs as saying he can't post because our sanity is too low, though maybe I missed something. I assumed that our sanity started HIGH, and it will drop as Nasty Things happen to us, like nightkills and mislynches. Maybe it's the D20 gamer in me, but 20 seemed like a good high number to me.

Admittedly it doesn't make as much sense for Brick to be able to start talking as sanity drops, rather than rises, but Serdoa did warn us about meta-ing.

Ok, looking again I interpret Brick's meaning as he can't talk if sanity is neutral (thumbs up, thumbs down), but can talk if it rises OR falls.

On an unrelated note, here's my attempt at decoding one of BRick's posts:

Do you know its sanity based, or suspect?
Slowcheetah for relying on history/bandwagoning.

I think this means: Don't ask a question with several options as answers, since I can only answer by quoting the entire post and answering Yes or No. (Q's post where he asks "is option A or option B correct?" makes Dawson cry.)