WW25 - Game Thread

[Jowy]

zakalwe why do u reckon rowain thought sc is villager even though he had access to the same info?

[zakalwe]

I don't know. Like I said earlier, I regret not asking.

He didnt have the information that Azza was scum, though.

[Ichabod]

Regarding Uberfish, I liked his post about Gazglum, hence my vote. Though, especially after you pointed out, I could see that Gazglum attack as just a very good case made by scum. Usually when I'm scum I tend to focus on only one target to actually make a case against (not because is optimal play, but because it's hard to find suspicious things on non-suspicious people), only following other votes. Does this MO fit with the current way uber is playing?

[zakalwe]

IDK. But it fits with the way I'm playing.

I'm off to bed.

[Jowy]

I don't know. Like I said earlier, I regret not asking.

He didnt have the information that Azza was scum, though.

true, but alarm bells should ring even without that information, if it looks like azza protects sc.
your point very good nevertheless.

any1 got reasons why not lynch gazglum today?

[novice]

If Azza was trying to protect Slowcheetah, why did he kill Rowain and not Zak?

[Gazglum]

Revelations ahoy! That was cruel of Serdoa, to make Azza a 'gossiper'.

Novice, your assuming the ghouls killed Rowain? That means that either wolves didn't kill, or Lewwyn is a wolf, because Azza was the only other person to die. I think that the wolves killed Rowain, and ghouls didn't kill.

Slowcheetah, why did you pick Azza as your lurker pressure vote, when you know he doesn't respond much to that tactic?

[novice]

Novice, your assuming the ghouls killed Rowain? That means that either wolves didn't kill, or Lewwyn is a wolf, because Azza was the only other person to die. I think that the wolves killed Rowain, and ghouls didn't kill.

I was commenting on Zak's theory that Azza and Slowcheetah were scum buddies, but I forgot that Azza's name wasn't revealed in red.

In that case, why are we assuming Azza even has a scum buddy? In fact, didn't Zak ask this exact question earlier?

[Gazglum]

any1 got reasons why not lynch gazglum today?

I have numerous, Jowy, and if necessary will spend the rest of the day laying them out. For a start, I'm town. For a second, I think my voting record is less suspicious than the flock of sheep Ichabod led trotting off the cliff.

Your point about Jkaen could be true, but it could equally well be false. Jkaen said he would be busy, he has a history of that, and I don't think he would lie about it. Gentleman's code and all that. I don't think he warrants a policy lynch at the moment.

Also, a point for Uberfish and Mattimeo, who accused me/Slow of struggling to make up cases because of a cheat sheet. Serdoa's story so far showed the representatives of town and wolf both surprised at the sudden appearance of our Third God (presumably teh representative of the ghouls). If there are three factions, then nobody needs to be hedging or struggling to make up cases, because everyone could be facing unknown scum.

[Gazglum]

In that case, why are we assuming Azza even has a scum buddy? In fact, didn't Zak ask this exact question earlier?

I feel like Serdoa's story is a strong pointer to there being a third party with its own victory condition. Azza turned up grey, so I guess he could have been a lone neutral, or a survivor, or something. If he was a survivor or on his own, then I think the third party must represent a serial killer and I'd be back to looking at Lewwyn again.

Or Azza could have been a lone killer, and Lewwyn a vigilante, but for some reason Azza chose not to kill.

Or else Azza killed Rowain and Lewwyn is part of a wolf team who thought Azza was the best nightkill.

They both seem unlikely. I think of all the possibilities, a multi-person ghoul group seems the most likely.