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Because if I and Rowain pushed through the lynch on Slowcheetah and he flipped as a wolf, Azza would end up looking like his accomplice. The only reason for Azza to stick his neck out is if Slowcheetah is another ghoul and he wanted to save him. Otherwise he would be better off just going along with the lynch. There would be nothing suspicious about that, since I practically insisted on it.
If it was just to be seen defending *someone*, building towncred or staying in character or whatever you want to call it, there was no reason to keep it confined to the neighbor thread.
On another note, though. What do people think about this?
(June 20th, 2013, 10:48)Serdoa Wrote: Just fyi: I forgot for EVERYONE to tell them their win condition.
Village: If no threat is left.
Scum: If you control the vote or nothing can prevent it.
If you are unsure about anything, send me a PM please. Terrible sorry about that.
Is that a sufficient victory condition for scum, if there are multiple scum factions?
If you know what I mean.
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Gaz: Ok I was mistaken there, zak wasn't actually on the first list of mjw voters
Q: whether Zak's case for SC being a ghoul is correct or not doesn't clear Zak of being a wolf. I believe the QT actually existed, it's way too much hassle to fabricate an entire QT and the style of posts is correct. but it's effectively Zak saying "hey guys Azza said this", and we don't have any way to confirm that Azza did say it since the other QT members are dead.
Slowcheetah: Why aren't you voting?
Also, re. zak's last post since serdoa has already made a few minor new-GM errors, I don't think we should meta anything into the win condition description.
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(June 25th, 2013, 01:55)zakalwe Wrote: (June 24th, 2013, 21:46)Ichabod Wrote: I don't think Zak would miss the point made regarding what would be Slowcheetah motivation to kill Rowain, since Rowain thought he was innocent. Not unless he is a wolf fabricating a case.
I don't see what I missed here - I never suggested or in any way implied that Slowcheetah/Azza tried to kill Rowain. Rowain seems like a perfectly plausible wolf kill, and Lewwyn has already enumerated some options for why the other kill is missing. My impression is that Azza was trying to build trust with Rowain and me, so if they did attempt a kill it's possible that they didn't target either of us. Or maybe they tried to kill me and I was protected. Or maybe the scum factions have alternating kills. Or who knows.
My mistake. I was considering what Lewwyn said before, that he didn't kill Azza. So Azza would have to be the wolf kill. But Lewwyn actually claimed that he was the one who killed Azza (right?). So, Rowain could be the wolf kill.
I'll comment on other things later.
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(June 25th, 2013, 01:55)zakalwe Wrote: Take into account the fact that Azza must have had a genuine desire to catch wolves, and there's no reason why he wouldn't go along with my wish to vote as a block for Slowcheetah.
A little bit of ego in that statement Zak? Why would anyone possibly not follow your lead unless they were scum! 
Nonetheless, I'm coming aboard the Slowcheetah bandwagon Q, loud and proud. Make room up front.
Basically, the case against Zak seems to be fairly tone based, plus the meta about the QT design. It's not without merit, but its not that strong. Zak (and Qs) case on Slowcheetah has much more logic behind it.
Combined with Slowcheetah's nosedived post count and the fact that my best buddy Uber is advocating a Zak lynch, and I think I prefer to be on the other side of the fence.
Plus, even if Zak is a wolf, getting a ghoul is higher priority than getting a wolf, because it might finish off their team and save a night-kill. That alone makes it seem a very bad idea to do it in the opposite order, if you really think both Zak and SLow are scum. Yes, Uber, I'm looking at you.
Goodnight all.
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out of SC or zakalwe, i would lynch zakalwe. both are scummy, but in the end i trust rowains judgment.
i believe quicktopic exist, but what was in there, we dont know. rowain knew.
gazglum has to be wolf. if villager, then he both plays bad and waste too much time trying to look good. someone said gazglum not been wolf before, inexperience would explain why so obvious.
lewwyn and mattimeo, both still suspect, but have to leave alive.
jkaen i would be ok to lynch.
brick i think is now villager. suspicious that so bad at images, but already apologize day 1 about distract us day 1.
novice feels weird but apparently this normal.
the rest i still think villager.
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Just back from site, couldn't get any Internet there annoyingly, so I have no idea what is going on and won't be able to read through before lynch time. Looking at the last 2 pages it seems Zak posted a QT that suggests slow is a ghoul correct. Is the decision now about if we believe Zak?
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Official Tally:
slowcheetah (5) - Qgqqqqq, zakalwe, novice, Ichabod, Gazglum
Ichabod (2) - Mattimeo, pindicator
zakalwe (2) - Lewwyn, Jowy
Gazglum (1) - uberfish
Lewwyn (1) - BRickAstley
Not voting (2) - Jkaen, slowcheetah
4 hours 52 minutes to go.
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(June 25th, 2013, 08:03)Jkaen Wrote: Just back from site, couldn't get any Internet there annoyingly, so I have no idea what is going on and won't be able to read through before lynch time. Looking at the last 2 pages it seems Zak posted a QT that suggests slow is a ghoul correct. Is the decision now about if we believe Zak?
i think the decision much more complex than that. but slowcheetah and zakalwe both good votes.
i hope you have more time next days jkaen, i'd hate to lynch just because lack of posts, but at some point it has to be done.
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Ok will go with lewwyn then against zak
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You still have almost 5 hours before the deadline, Jkaen.
If you know what I mean.
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