WW25 - Game Thread

[Jkaen]

Yes but I need to go out now and spend time with the girlfriend who hasn't seen me and heads off away from me for a month in a few days

[zakalwe]

Well, I'm innocent, and Slowcheetah is displaying all the classical signs of scum caught red-handed. So please move your vote.

[slowcheetah]

Why would we have to mislynch you before Q would make a good lynch?

It seems pretty inevitable (Lewwyn is clearly going to switch to somebody else before the deadline). Q woud make a good lynch tommorow when the dust has cleared from my death. Well him, you or Novice.

Slowcheetah: Why aren't you voting?

Mistake Zakalwe

[Ichabod]

Also, a point for Uberfish and Mattimeo, who accused me/Slow of struggling to make up cases because of a cheat sheet. Serdoa's story so far showed the representatives of town and wolf both surprised at the sudden appearance of our Third God (presumably teh representative of the ghouls). If there are three factions, then nobody needs to be hedging or struggling to make up cases, because everyone could be facing unknown scum.

That is a bad post by gazglum. The story makes it likely that the third faction was hidden even from the wolves. This seems like a bad counter argument to Uberfish's argument that Gazglum is hedging/having difficulty to make cases.

I wouldn't be surprised if both you, Gazglum, and Lewwyn were innocent. Maybe even Novice and Ichabod, too. Yeah, that's a lot of innocent strong players. So rather than hunt for superwolves, I have been concluding that there are enough town vibes to go around for now that the sensible thing to do is to just lynch the obvghoul. Tomorrow we can make a more informed decision about who the wolves are.

But since you insist on bullying me into it, I'll be a good villager and throw out some reads. If you want a concrete wolf suspect, then maybe take a second look at Brick. You said yourself on day 1 that he could have done a better job of actually contributing, and I still think that is true. Q could still be a wolf, and so could Jkaen. And if there is a superwolf, then my gut says it's either you or Novice. I'm neutral on Mattimeo, and leaning town on Jowy and Pindicator.

With 16 players, I don't know what the setup is anyway. 2-2-14 seems a little slanted in favor of town, does it not?

What do you think about Jowy?

I personally definitely believe the QT, though I wouldnt be overly surprised if it was edited to paint zak in a better light/contribute to it. Honestly though I'm not seeing any evidence for it.
If you're voting zak because you think he's a wolf hunting ghuls - doesn't that mean you suspect slow might be a ghoul and agree with the case?
In which case, I don't see why you wouldn't lynch slow first and foremost and then consider zaks case based off that - especially as it seems its contingent on second hunting third party tells?

I like the azza-slow connection as a support for the case, but I find it odd that Gazglum finds it a good case solely on that - especially seeing as he didn't find the earlier behaviour suspect.

I think that is a nice point against Gazglum too. I voted Slowcheetah earlier because I wanted to see Zak's reaction. I thought he might go after me after I switched my vote. He didn't. Not entirely sure what that means, but I wanted to see, that's why I voted for slowcheetah. But Gazglum doesn't have this reason, he's voting purely based on Zak's case, which is not THAT good. Besides, it's a catch-ghoul case, not a catch-wolf case (and I suspect gaz of being a wolf).

Damn, I have doubts right now. Not sure who to lynch. Wonder what people think of Gazglum.

[uberfish]

I still prefer gazglum as today's lynch, I feel most confident of his scumminess at this point.

Slowcheetah: what, specifically, about novice and Q's attacks on you do you find suspicious? I'm annoyed I even have to ask this.

[Ichabod]

By the way, Pindicator seems to be really flying under radar today. Useless vote for me (and I'm obviously innocent), not anything else from what I can remember, besides translating BRick. Maybe feeling calm after we almost lynched him on the first day...

Add BRick to the list of non-paticipant quicktopic speaker players.

[Lewwyn]

Not sure who to lynch? Yeah I can see that. I've been debating all day. Slow just said I was clearly going to switch my vote. I'm not sure how that's clear. I legitimately think Zak could be scum. I also think slow could be scum.

On the other hand Uberfish agreed with me about Zak,which sort of set me off a bit. It wasn't so much that he agreed with me. It was the way in which he did so. Now I'm on an iPad so I can't quote efficiently, but uberfish actually agreed that the trio of gossipers representing each faction was plausible. I know I brought it up because I'm prone to neatness in meta and following through with it, but it struck me that that was the sort of argument uberfish would outright consider weak and unimportant. For me zak is suspicious more for his general attitude and his obsession with slowcheetah. But of all the people I did not expect uber to go for the more neat and tidy meta.

I still suspect gazglum for a number of scummy posts. But I also suspect uberfish now too. I'm still on board with thinking zak is a good lynch as well as slowcheetah. Unfortunately I think the lynch is going to be decided in the final hours before deadline.

I need more information. For now leaving the vote on zak.

[Serdoa]

Official Tally:

slowcheetah (4) - Qgqqqqq, zakalwe, novice, Gazglum
zakalwe (4) - Lewwyn, Jowy, Jkaen, slowcheetah
Ichabod (2) - Mattimeo, pindicator
Gazglum (2) - uberfish, Ichabod
Lewwyn (1) - BRickAstley

2 hours 4 minutes to go.

[novice]

Lewwyn why did you claim that he'd played Mafia before?

Lewwyn, did you ever answer this question?

[novice]

Lewwyn why did you claim that he'd played Mafia before?

Lewwyn, did you ever answer this question?

To clarify, Uberfish is talking about Jowy there.