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WW25 - Game Thread
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@Lewwyn
actually I never said that the 1:1:1 QT theory was a particularly strong argument against zak, I simply agreed that it was a plausible setup. I was already suspicious of zak before you made my post because of his overall posting profile up to that point, as I stated in a previous post. what I would actually consider the main points against zak: He posted a lot, but in a passive-reactive style, letting everyone else get their hands dirty and make moves first. He pulls the QT card shortly after being called on the above. now he's said "a wolf wouldn't do this", but I don't see why a villager wouldn't just reveal the QT at the start of the day as evidence against Slowcheetah either. After all, he opened up by voting SC anyway and the Azza post (real or edited) seems to be the centerpiece of his argument. Why hold it back? Whereas if he's scum he could have been initially reluctant to release the QT because of the 1:1:1 meta argument, but felt that he needed to do something to look like a "good villager" at that point. @Novice: Yeah, those are the observations I made, but the point beyond that is that Gazglum didn't at all sound like his self-confident village persona, during day 1/night 1. To be honest, slowcheetah wouldn't be a bad lynch either, he has not really done anything today that gives off village tells.
two options: i have extra vote, or novice has extra vote. doubt its more complicated than that.
but i dont have extra vote, so has to be novice. why would novice lie? novice say its not him, which make jowy look bad because jowy claim vanilla. in same post, i think not coincidence, novice start fresh attack on jowy (and brick, who i also think villager).
Slowcheetah said he is sick, Pindicator. maybe that's why he disappeared.
after reading your post, pindicator, I remembered about Mattimeo. Something doesn't seem to click right regarding what happened. Why did you watch Azza, Mattimeo? Seems a strange target for a townie to watch, what with Azza always playing suspicious (since he talks so little). Did you really think Scum would kill him? Why not watch Zak/Novice/Rowain? And why out Lewwyn like you did so fast (why not try to quietly push him a bit)? Though, if Mattimeo watched Azza, he can only be a wolf, not a third party (I don't see him watching one of his own... or anyone think that's likely?). But if Mattimeo is a wolf, he can't really think Lewwyn is a wolf, so I think he'd have doubts regarding outing Lewwyn (he'd have know for sure that Lewwyn was a villager vigilante, so it'd be best to kill him without saying a word). Well, I guess that makes Mattimeo a likely villager. Though I wouldn't mind to hear why he tracked Azza.
Ok thinking about it some more, I just see the timing of Zak's QT reveal as something a scum would do rather than a villager. There's just no good reason for a villager not to reveal the main piece of evidence against his main suspect at the beginning of the day. It's not like the reveal exposes any valuable role. Whereas scum zak would definitely be initially reluctant to reveal to avoid meta arguments, but might decide to do so later if he needed more ammo.
zakalwe (June 25th, 2013, 11:50)Ichabod Wrote: Why did you watch Azza, Mattimeo?...do people even read what I post? I do wonder sometimes :/ (June 25th, 2013, 11:51)Jowy Wrote: though maybe it is more complicated?I do recall one instance where it was actually sourced from the player it was placed on - as part of a collection of abilities, one of which *had* to be used every day. ...if memory serves correctly, that player was Serdoa, I believe? -- Don’t forget.
Always, somewhere, someone is fighting for you. -- As long as you remember her, you are not alone.
Uberfish, like I said earlier, there could be more than two ghouls. That's why I held off for half a day. That's also why I was sitting back, like you observed. I was looking for interaction tells. Azza would presumably have updated his fellow ghouls on what happened in the QT, so they would know that I had incriminating evidence on Slowcheetah. So there was no real point in masking my own suspicion. But it was still interesting to see if anyone would follow me before I made my reveal.
If you know what I mean.
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