WW25 - Game Thread

[Gazglum]

Pity too, if I had had a little more time before people started digging into that I could have done so without revealing everything; now, I'll have to just to get people to listen and not lynch me. :P

So how would you have played this differently if you weren't being pressured, and had had a little more time?

[Mattimeo]

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BRick, you're awesome. An utterly terrible person, but awesome
(also, 'sif not claim that 13 was low enough sanity that you could talk normally. I know I had the threshold pegged at 15 or so)

[Lewwyn]

Pity too, if I had had a little more time before people started digging into that I could have done so without revealing everything; now, I'll have to just to get people to listen and not lynch me. :P

So how would you have played this differently if you weren't being pressured, and had had a little more time?

Was he really under pressure??

[Mattimeo]

There has got to be a wolf in there. It's not Ichabod, its not Rowain. I do not think its pindi based on yesterday. I do not think its Brick because his vote would have been unnecessary to lynch MJW, and I think his actions yesterday were villagery.

Of these we are left with Zak and uber...

While I can understand the gut feeling that there's likely a wolf in a late swing, you still have to ask *why*. Would a wolf switch onto a last minute wagon if they weren't specifically trying to save someone?

So, who was on (or near) the block when the run came?
pindicator, uberfish, Jowy

Unless you're saying zak was trying to save Jowy, the other votes can be quite reasonably cast as self defence. Doesn't mean they're not a wolf trying to save themselves, but I don't know that a wolf *has* to be in that grouping.


Re the extra vote:
Given the discussion about it just before deadline, it's quite possible that (if it's not novice, as he has claimed) it was cast on whoever novice was voting for to frame him. Still raises the question of why it was on uber on day 1.

Agreed with uber that, given the bonus vote looks scum, Qgqqqqq's tiebreak gets a town lean.

Pretty sure my vote is going on Jkaen until he starts contributing in a meaningful manner, though.

[Mattimeo]

Pity too, if I had had a little more time before people started digging into that I could have done so without revealing everything; now, I'll have to just to get people to listen and not lynch me. :P

So how would you have played this differently if you weren't being pressured, and had had a little more time?

Was he really under pressure??

Yeah, I was confused by the 'digging into that' comment as well...

[BRickAstley]

Pity too, if I had had a little more time before people started digging into that I could have done so without revealing everything; now, I'll have to just to get people to listen and not lynch me. :P

So how would you have played this differently if you weren't being pressured, and had had a little more time?

I wouldn't have unveiled the viggy stuff. I could have come out when I felt I had a good argument and have that to lead off with, instead of people questioning why I was acting the way I did with the Pindicator/Lewwyn situation. I'm not really in a good situation as far as withholding information goes, and not being crystal clear on that I felt would have increased the chances of an auto lynch, so I felt at this point there was no other choice than to be explicitly open.

[BRickAstley]

Also, I agree that it wasn't really that much under pressure, but when you're figuring how to tell your teammates you've been faking a post restriction the whole time, there's a wee bit of a tendency for paranoia to seep in there.

[Jkaen]

Well I admit I have not set the world alight so far this game, I will try to pick it up today

I don't think the fact that bricks pr was faked gives a lean either way. Plus I am surprised how people are quickly coming to conclusions on the source of the two voting powers with what seems to be total confidence in their decisions

[Mattimeo]

Plus I am surprised how people are quickly coming to conclusions on the source of the two voting powers with what seems to be total confidence in their decisions

We've been over the 'playstyle with an extra vote' discussion in previous games. Short version: if your extra vote doesn't match your actual vote, you're scum.

[Gazglum]

Also, I agree that it wasn't really that much under pressure, but when you're figuring how to tell your teammates you've been faking a post restriction the whole time, there's a wee bit of a tendency for paranoia to seep in there.