WW25 - Game Thread

[BRickAstley]

novice i have a plan.

i will

All of this being cryptic in combination with your arrogance of "i'll give you lessons how to play novice" aren't exactly endearing you to me.

[Serdoa]

Official Vote Count

novice (7)- Qgqqqq, Lewwyn, pindicator, BRickAstley, Gazglum, Jkaen, Jowy
BRickAstley (4) - novice, Mattimeo, zakalwe, uberfish

2 hours, 26 minutes to go

[uberfish]

At this stage, in order for novice to be a wolf, either all the wolves in the game are currently in the group voting BRick, or he's being bussed with what seems like very little reason for doing so. Neither of these scenarios make much sense to me.

On the contrary, if Novice is a wolf I expect at least one of his teammates is currently voting him for cover. Since he looks fairly likely to go down.

[Jowy]

All of this being cryptic in combination with your arrogance of "i'll give you lessons how to play novice" aren't exactly endearing you to me.

i realize this. i explained to novice and others why zak holding back info was bad villager move. answer to question "how to bait" would be 10 page essay, and nothing about it help the villager team. better leave it to after game if novice really care.

[BRickAstley]

Therefore I want a full claim from brick. For the main reason that I have serious meta doubts about his claimed role that are related to my own role. I will explain why after Brick claims.

Fine, at this point I suppose it's necessary, and that I'll be dying soon anyways since I might be able to hurt wolves and all.

I'm the gunmakers apprentence, and I can vig shoot people. I only have 2 shots, and I can only do it when sanity id 10 or lower. I have been given no flavor reason why that is the case.

So why do you have doubts on it now?

I'll just reiterate that there's no defense for doing what BRick did - he lied to the village, and didn't interrupt when the village took wrong turns and wasted time based on his lies. Yes, he made tremendous effort overcoming his FAKED post restriction, but surely that was the whole point of his gambit, getting village cred for his "hard work". He was happy to see MJW hang without clarifying what he knew about the sanity mechanism. He was happy to let Pindicator spend his ability neighbourising with BRick. He didn't chime in with his info when we speculated that Pindicator's role was meant to balance out BRick's PR. He HASN'T done a lot of scumhunting, he's just been working to overcome his PR. And he stil HASN'T COME CLEAN! He has NOT revealed how his "real" role supposedly fits with Lewwyn's role. Lewwyn has intimated that he might have a counterpart to his role, and hey presto! Suddenly that's BRick's real role.

Don't you find it odd that in a village near LyLo BRick DOESN'T get bandwagonned for lying to the village? I mean, if scum were looking for an easy lynch they don't come more easily than this. So that the majority of votes are collecting on me really ought to ring a bell for you people.

Yes I lied to the village. No I did interrupt when the village tried wasting time on me! I posted multiple times in day 1 with pictures to stop trying to decipher what I was saying if it didnt make sense, and reiterated it when I talked through pindicator. I was ok with MJW hanging day 1 but I already just explained that. How in the heck does it matter that pindicator's role wasn't meant to balance out my PR? It was obvious that it was actually there and this doesn't make it any less legitimate, that's a strawman. I have done a lot of scumhunting, more than you've done, both before when I went back and explained it and now with the case on you. And bullshit I haven't come clean, even before my full role reveal above I told you everything except the trigger that would let wolves know when it's time to eat me! It fits with Lewwyn's role because his role is limited in some way and I know my role is limited by snaity, so it would make sense for the village to have 2 handicapped vigs. And all of that is workable from what I've said before so don't you accuse me of hiding that up.

And I can't even believe that you're painting yourself as an easy mislynch victim compared to me. I'm the guy who had to come out and reveal that I fricking lied to god-with-no-name and everybody! I do find it odd, but odd in a good way, because why wouldn't I be dead? I'm the easiest scum mislynch ever, all they have to do after I turn up blue is said "well, lynch all liars, sorry, policy", and they're scot free! No, at this point i think the damning evidence on you is the fact that you're being lynched, and it's not a mislynch, i'm easy as cake there, it's because you've been tried and shown to be found wanting and a wolf, and now you have to pay for it.

novice (7)- Qgqqqq, Lewwyn, pindicator, BRickAstley, Gazglum, Jkaen, Jowy
BRickAstley (4) - novice, Mattimeo, zakalwe, uberfish

At this stage, in order for novice to be a wolf, either all the wolves in the game are currently in the group voting BRick, or he's being bussed with what seems like very little reason for doing so. Neither of these scenarios make much sense to me.

As I see Uber say as I preview, that's not true, wolves can bus for cover and often do, or maybe because there's a pretty good case on novice at this point. And I could see wolves trying to work with novice from early on to try and defend him hoping they can swing the tide back against me.

Brick, if you trusted I was village, why didn't you come clean in the QT thread yesterday? Why make me write all that text (and right before deadline too)?

When did you first start planning your first posts for this game? Not the theme, but actually digging up images

Well, I had my suspicion for the longest time, and if I felt strongly convicted enough about you and lewwyn I was going to just make a post then. Right before deadline, I could have revealed, but I honestly didn't think about it, I had refrained from amking a big reveal then cause I didn't feel there was a good reason to do so, but it didnt cross my mind to tell you about it then. Sorry.

And the pictures I didn't look into at all until the game started, that's why at the start it was pretty ragtag, but as time went on and i determined myself I had to find a way to make it helpful, I got a standard set of images that were of an easily readable size (150x150) ready and started using those predominantly.

[pindicator]

Thanks Brick. Your answers to questions today have appeared a lot more forthcoming than novice's have.

[uberfish]

I'm the gunmakers apprentence, and I can vig shoot people. I only have 2 shots, and I can only do it when sanity id 10 or lower. I have been given no flavor reason why that is the case.

So why do you have doubts on it now?

Because I have an ability that reduces the sanity as a side effect. I have no flavour reason why it reduces the sanity either. But if I use that ability N times, I gain a kill. It therefore seems very odd to me that the sanity counter would also cause another villager to be powered up.

And lewwyn is already claiming to be some sort of vig variant too. Wtf.

[novice]

[BRickAstley]

I'm the gunmakers apprentence, and I can vig shoot people. I only have 2 shots, and I can only do it when sanity id 10 or lower. I have been given no flavor reason why that is the case.

So why do you have doubts on it now?

Because I have an ability that reduces the sanity as a side effect. I have no flavour reason why it reduces the sanity either. But if I use that ability N times, I gain a kill. It therefore seems very odd to me that the sanity counter would also cause another villager to be powered up.

And lewwyn is already claiming to be some sort of vig variant too. Wtf.

Hmm. Superoverpowered game yay?

That does seem like a lot of killing allowed, but since the roles seem to counter each other as far as sanity goes, that would likely balance it out. Since for you to get a kill, sanity has to stay up, but for me to use mine, sanity has to go down. Keeping the vigs from killing everyone at once. I agree that it does seem like a lot but it's definitely plausible.

[novice]

I have an ability that reduces the sanity as a side effect. I have no flavour reason why it reduces the sanity either. But if I use that ability N times, I gain a kill.

Since for you to get a kill, sanity has to stay up, but for me to use mine, sanity has to go down.