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I say congrats to Plako on the win, to the Zulu for refusing to die, and to EVERYONE for a drama free game. My faith in humanity is restored.
Bigger, I don't know if there is a way for us to end this game without bursting your bubble and you not feeling cheated by the ending, but I don't think Plako or Serdoa want to take the time to roll across you guys with infantry or whatever just to put this game to an end. You and Lewwyn played well (obviously much better than I did) but I don't think there's anything you guys could do to overcome Plako's game position and actually trigger your victory condition. Maybe the less said the better here, don't shoot the messenger.
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(July 11th, 2013, 22:16)spacetyrantxenu Wrote: I say congrats to Plako on the win, to the Zulu for refusing to die, and to EVERYONE for a drama free game. My faith in humanity is restored. Ditto. Good game all, and very well played Plako! 
I'll be spoiling myself et all, but logging in to hit shift-enter isn't much of a burden; all I was planning on doing anyhow. Might want to turn this into a PBEM duel if more proof is needed, though, certainly will get done faster.
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This game is starting to feel a bit too artificial with nations that are just pushing enter/converted to AI. Bigger/Lewwyn what is your preference? Should we try to find replacements or what?
I'll pause the game for now.
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I went through my cities and set build queues, didn't move any units so if this game goes on for some reason I won't have double moved Serdoa. I think we're in a pause until he gets back anyway?
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(July 11th, 2013, 22:16)spacetyrantxenu Wrote: I say congrats to Plako on the win, to the Zulu for refusing to die, and to EVERYONE for a drama free game. My faith in humanity is restored.
Bigger, I don't know if there is a way for us to end this game without bursting your bubble and you not feeling cheated by the ending, but I don't think Plako or Serdoa want to take the time to roll across you guys with infantry or whatever just to put this game to an end. You and Lewwyn played well (obviously much better than I did) but I don't think there's anything you guys could do to overcome Plako's game position and actually trigger your victory condition. Maybe the less said the better here, don't shoot the messenger.
I agree with all of this, particularly the top statement. I don't really mind hitting enter until the end of time, but when the majority of the map seems to be doing that the game does have a bit of an artificial feel.
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ok, im going to say this again:
I am NOT conceding. if this game ends now, Plako will not in any way be the victor. Fuck a moral victory, I'm going to win this. I don't care if everyone else is bored with the game. I sacrificed a lot to win this game - including not signing up for other games that would overwhelm me. after 9 grueling months I am within 30-40 turns of pulling off what I have been preparing for a long time, especially not when im literally 15 turns away from knowing if I have a 0% chance or a 50%+ chance. 9 fucking months I've plugged away, including many frustrating situations, and im less than a month away and you pull the plug? fuck that.
I don't think you guys have a firm grasp at all about how far away I am. I don't think you have a firm grasp on Plako's situation either. I've played enough single player with this version of rb mod (no tech trading) to know he is a LONG WAY from Tanks or bombers.
Honestly, I'm really fucking pissed right now, and I probably won't ever play a PB here again (at least not w/ serdoa or commodore).
Please don't go. The drones need you. They look up to you.
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(July 12th, 2013, 10:44)Bigger Wrote: ok, im going to say this again:
I am NOT conceding. if this game ends now, Plako will not in any way be the victor. Fuck a moral victory, I'm going to win this. I don't care if everyone else is bored with the game. I sacrificed a lot to win this game - including not signing up for other games that would overwhelm me. after 9 grueling months I am within 30-40 turns of pulling off what I have been preparing for a long time, especially not when im literally 15 turns away from knowing if I have a 0% chance or a 50%+ chance. 9 fucking months I've plugged away, including many frustrating situations, and im less than a month away and you pull the plug? fuck that.
I don't think you guys have a firm grasp at all about how far away I am. I don't think you have a firm grasp on Plako's situation either. I've played enough single player with this version of rb mod (no tech trading) to know he is a LONG WAY from Tanks or bombers.
Honestly, I'm really fucking pissed right now, and I probably won't ever play a PB here again (at least not w/ serdoa or commodore).
If you want to be pissed, that's fine, I won't judge that. I sunk hundreds of hours over 9 months into a game where we had 0 chance of winning and horrendous luck for 7.5 of them, so I understand being invested.
However, you are draaaaaastically underestimating how close everyone is paying attention to your culture attempt. I've known that was your plan for MONTHS and I had no reason to care with our 0.0% chance of victory. All it takes is a quick glance at your tech and wonder choices and that's all anyone needs to know. It's not gone unnoticed, and Plako is effectively an era ahead of you with probably 4X your production. I guess everyone else could retire to AI so that turns would end quickly, and he could burn one of our culture cities to prove it if you'd like, but I don't see the point in that.
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Maybe we could find some way to play this through as a duel. Other nations could be either dummies pushing enter or AI with restrictions how they could be exploited. Also I can say that with direct beeline Bombers are under 30T away.
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I'm not saying you have to quit, and I hope you're not taking my resignation as that. But you're not going to make me play on. I'm sorry, I'm done. It was more fun trying to defend for my life against hopeless odds than it is to waste time in what on my side of the map is a complete farce of a civ game. I'm moving on. You can move on if you want, or you can continue to play if you're still extracting a sense of satisfaction.
I really don't care who's declared the winner, but if you make us all play on against our will then there will only be losers.
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(July 12th, 2013, 10:44)Bigger Wrote: ok, im going to say this again:
I am NOT conceding. if this game ends now, Plako will not in any way be the victor. Fuck a moral victory, I'm going to win this. I don't care if everyone else is bored with the game. I sacrificed a lot to win this game - including not signing up for other games that would overwhelm me. after 9 grueling months I am within 30-40 turns of pulling off what I have been preparing for a long time, especially not when im literally 15 turns away from knowing if I have a 0% chance or a 50%+ chance. 9 fucking months I've plugged away, including many frustrating situations, and im less than a month away and you pull the plug? fuck that.
I don't think you guys have a firm grasp at all about how far away I am. I don't think you have a firm grasp on Plako's situation either. I've played enough single player with this version of rb mod (no tech trading) to know he is a LONG WAY from Tanks or bombers.
Honestly, I'm really fucking pissed right now, and I probably won't ever play a PB here again (at least not w/ serdoa or commodore).
I'm not sure what exactly I have done tbh. I mean if you don't want to play a game with me again, that's your choice, but I have the nagging feeling that this is not for anything I've done but for something you believe I should do that I didn't without you knowing my situation in game well enough to judge it (but I made several posts on it, explaining it, so that hopefully can be rectified).
If you are pissed because I asked for concession I'd like to point out the following: I made every effort I possibly could to not spoil anything when I stated that I would like to concede to plako. I did never try to force anyone else to concede. I know you were asked to do so by others, but I hardly see how I am responsible for that. I also played on after it was clear that we would not concede and have never asked since to do so. I even did play as optimally as possible for the time I had available, maybe with the exception of my last war, but that was me having a brainfart, not me being intentionally playing badly.
So, really, I don't get what I did to you. As I said, if it is for some action you expected me to take ingame, we can talk about this after the game. But if it is because I asked for concession, I really don't see me at fault.
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