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[HitAnyKey]

I would be wary of him attacking out and destroying your stack if you wait too long. That said, you can't rush an attack on a defended target. Honestly, if it gets too tough, retreat: that's fine, nothing lost. As for promotions, use them when necessary to get odds defending (keep in mind collateral); otherwise, save to use for healing after battle. Do we know if he could have knights in the fog?

I suppose anything is possible (regarding the Knights) and I meant to stick a Longbow on that hill to the west of my stack to get a look into that fog in the north, but forgot and move him onto the stack instead, when I completed the road through that jungle hill. Next turn I have another opportunity to stick a Longbow on that hill, but it may be too late if he decides to attack the stack next turn before I can give some of the LBs promotions.

[TheHumanHydra]

I wouldn't move a longbow out. You'll need it in your stack, and that hill doesn't get visibility on all tiles knights could hit your stack from anyway (ie. if they were to hide them, they'd hide them in ParanoidofOcean, which you can't get visibility on). Anyway, um, I'm very apprehensive about this attack/situation. I think we may need to come back with more later ... it was kind of an ad hoc attack anyway, wasn't it? So there'd be nothing wrong with that. But see what you can do. We do have a fair amount of collateral to throw at them.

[HitAnyKey]

Yeah, I've decided that you're right in that I need to pull back and wait until I have a stack of Macemen to move in. I have 5 or 6 being built next turn, but some of them will take up to 7 turns to reach the front. And his stack now has a Knight in it, which means more are on the way. So I'm pulling back to my territory now so that I'm not paying these troop costs for having them in enemy territory. As soon as I have a stack of Macemen (and hopefully some crossbows, though it looks like the Fort-canal thing isn't getting me Iron in the rest of my nation...so I'll need to build the long road through the ice ) up there, I'll move in again. For now, it was a good try. Just sadly a little too little, too late. No idea how we're going to compete in this game with the rest of the teams already fully having expanded on that "landmass" to the east since it's obvious that all 3 of them have many cities on it, and we only have the single city.

[Nakor]

Seems like attacking is not an option indeed.
We're all in an arms race with us in last place (also tech wise).
Seems like we're waiting for the hammer to fall....

[TheHumanHydra]

As I said before, no shame in a retreat. Btw, whenever I post about war, I never mean to detract from the judgement of the commander on the spot, who is probably better-informed than I am. Always feel free to ignore me, turnplayer! But I think you/we made the right choice here.

No idea how we're going to compete in this game with the rest of the teams already fully having expanded on that "landmass" to the east since it's obvious that all 3 of them have many cities on it, and we only have the single city.

Hmm, this is concerning. I guess you were right to push for us getting a city over there ... this is one of my weaknesses in this game (CIV), not knowing how to maintain a steady pace of expansion. Anyway, is it possible to do some REXing over there?

Seems like attacking is not an option indeed.
We're all in an arms race with us in last place (also tech wise).
Seems like we're waiting for the hammer to fall....

I guess we just have to build enough military to make us unappealing while REXing into a position from which we can recover. Old Harry can attest that recovery is always possible. What exactly is the global tech situation?

[TheHumanHydra]

Has there been any movement from Commodlewwyn/Lewwyadore, Nakor?

[HitAnyKey]

I guess we just have to build enough military to make us unappealing while REXing into a position from which we can recover. Old Harry can attest that recovery is always possible. What exactly is the global tech situation?

I'll try to post a screenshot later if I can (unless someone else can log in and do so beore then), but there is very little room to REX over across the water. The others have already pushed pretty far. Commodore is already as far west as that Stone that was somewhat near us. We have room north of my Iron city for one across the water from my future Moai city. And we have room in the tundra-ice south for my Silver city. And then I have backfill cities such as my icy Marble city, and my Incense desert city. But that's about it for cities that will not involve conquering our neighbors.

As for global tech situation, I have no idea how to figure that out, so if someone else can log in and try to understand some of that, please go ahead.

[TheHumanHydra]

Hmmm. Any evidence of significant fighting elsewhere? It sounds like we'll need to conquer some land from someone before they outtech us militarily. Preferably a distracted target, since attacking at tech parity's so hard. You mentioned you had a bunch of maces coming up you could use for a renewed attack? Would it be better to mass troops from both civilizations and attack an area they can both reach, say, that jungle area to the north? Or maybe ship troops across to the perhaps ill-defended island-frontier area? Just tossing out ideas.

[Nakor]

We are backward in tech, so that's part of the problem...

[HitAnyKey]

Just a few quick things. My military buildup is going quite well. I've made 9 Macemen so far and just finished off 6 Crossbows, all of which are headed to the front. I'll be able to start on some Pikemen next turn as well once Nakor finishes Engineering for us. WK now has 4 Knights in that city, along with other units, so it'll be quite the battle once I regroup, but right now I'm hoping I can pull together enough quick enough to go after him. My hope is that they are still dealing with some stuff with Smack, which since another Great General was just born recently, that might be likely. Unless LAM is fighting with Smack again.

We're #1 in Power right now, so that's a good sign for any war I want to start.





I'm also going to make my way to settling my 2nd city across the water. Do you all agree that I should put it on the hill I have marked on the coast? If I go on that one E of it, I'll be butting up too much against that LAM border and may cause me more grief than I want right now. If I'm lucky they'll leave me alone for a bit since I'd be far enough away from them.


I'll also send a settler south to grab my Silver Cities spot which is south of the Iron city.