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WW26: The Masquerade [Game Thread]

If contributing to the best of my ability means I'm digging a hole for myself, then I will gladly keep digging. Muriel will not be one of those people too scared to stick their necks out for the benefit of the village. I now understand your comment on the aura of innocence, but you should also understand why my bullshit meter is all the way up on you; I'm a villager who did not attempt to create any kind of aura, good or bad. That's why I know that you are either wrong in your hypothesis, or you are a wolf trying to get me killed. I think with your latest post, you misunderstanding me is off the list of possibilities. Why would anyone try to get me killed? Well, I'm an easy target for starters, sticking my neck out like this and 'digging a hole for myself', and that has to be the main reason.

I'm leaning towards wolf on Rob the Filch after his latest posts. I did not find his explanation satisfying. They are just more of the same, with a pinch of smear. In case you are a villager, at least try to elaborate more than saying my posts are "scummy" and "scummier". It's way more helpful when we know the exact reasons you think something is scummy. Even if you are wrong, like in this case, it will be easier to respond to those worries and clear up the air.
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I'm unwilling to hand-wave away Lady Elizabeth's posts.

(July 19th, 2013, 16:28)Lady Elizabeth Wrote: This is very silly because if you claim your real name a wolf or villager will never counter claim you. Villages because they don't usually lie and wolfs because it steps up a 50% chance to kill a wolf on the first attempt and 100% chance of killing a wolf if the village guesses wrong.

Let's put aside feelings about meta discussion. You claim that the town will be safer if there is a mass-claim of real identities. There is no reliable method to verify anyone's claim. You justify this by saying no wolf would ever counter-claim an identity reveal, which has merit. You're revealed now and this gives you credibility for what exactly?

It appears that you write this to establish some credit for being honest or perceptive. I don't know see why you should get any. Your real identity has nothing to do with your alignment in this game.

(July 20th, 2013, 00:54)Lady Elizabeth Wrote: 1. I did not claim vainillina town. What I meant was that was that was all the FLAVOR information I was given in my role-pm.

You claim there is only one faction, then you make a general softclaim. It's not definitive, similar to my argument above, but it tells me there's an increased probability that you do, in fact, have an ability. You've identified yourself, also as a villager with likely with an ability, and became a target. Are you just trying to build town cred or save yourself?

Also:

(July 20th, 2013, 05:01)Muriel The Slow Wrote: Now to my vote. Rob, you are very eager to attack someone only a few hours into the game. While I find it hard to believe that a wolf would rather go on an attack like that than stay low, I find it even harder to believe that a villager would be so convinced of someone's guiltiness right off the bat that they would go on such an attack. Especially when I know that the person you are attacking is a villager, and one of the few contributors so far.

Eh? Buddies?
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(July 20th, 2013, 10:02)Easy Sarah Wrote:
(July 20th, 2013, 05:01)Muriel The Slow Wrote: Now to my vote. Rob, you are very eager to attack someone only a few hours into the game. While I find it hard to believe that a wolf would rather go on an attack like that than stay low, I find it even harder to believe that a villager would be so convinced of someone's guiltiness right off the bat that they would go on such an attack. Especially when I know that the person you are attacking is a villager, and one of the few contributors so far.

Eh? Buddies?

Sarah, while I find Muriel suspicious, I do think this question has already been provided for; she was referring to herself in the third personage. Blast, now I cannot find the quote of it for the life of me.

Fat Rose, I cannot say I follow you're attack on Jon. I will re-read to digest the intent, but I thought he was clearly against those that would vote Elizabeth. If there was a contradiction later it escaped my first perusal.
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(July 20th, 2013, 09:54)Muriel The Slow Wrote: I did not find his explanation satisfying.

I wasn't explaining anything because everything was perfectly clear. rolleye
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Saul, that is correct, he attacked those that voted Courage (Elizabeth). But that was not my point. What I don't understand and like is his vote-switch. I'd still like to get an explanation - and be it just so I understand it for the future - why he voted first for Bert, got a non-answer to his question and moves his vote to the next voter on Courage. Why the switch? Why not keep on Bert if you don't understand his vote? Especially when you don't get an answer that is satisfying?
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You are correct, Doctor, I am wrong to draw that reference. Thank you for your careful attention. Sorry, Muriel.
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(July 20th, 2013, 10:59)Fat Rose Wrote: Saul, that is correct, he attacked those that voted Courage (Elizabeth). But that was not my point. What I don't understand and like is his vote-switch. I'd still like to get an explanation - and be it just so I understand it for the future - why he voted first for Bert, got a non-answer to his question and moves his vote to the next voter on Courage. Why the switch? Why not keep on Bert if you don't understand his vote? Especially when you don't get an answer that is satisfying?

Bert's answer was satisfactory to me. We can always push him later to elaborate on what his plan was, if there even was one, and I don't mind if he does elaborate. I just decided that Widow Edith was more suspicious, for casting the second vote. And then I moved my vote to Half-Nose Harry, because I thought that was a better lead. It's day one, and it doesn't take much for me to change my mind. You should try it sometime. wink
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(July 20th, 2013, 10:02)Easy Sarah Wrote: I'm unwilling to hand-wave away Lady Elizabeth's posts.

Who's asking you to hand-wave away anything? And hand-wave away what, exactly? Your attack on LE is very strange because you're not actually calling him scummy. At least I'm not seeing it. So maybe you could be more specific and point out exactly what he said or did that makes you think he's scum?
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I believe Lady Elizabeth / Courage to be a villager. If he was a werewolf, he would not risk being instantly caught by faking a role-PM unsuccessfully. His information checks out, therefore I trust him. Now here's the thing. Any villager would have realized that his claim was true, so anyone who voted to lynch him should be kept an eye on. Those players are: Bert, Edith, Percival, Sarah. I doubt they are all wolves, but we at least have a higher chance to catch a wolf by picking one of these four than if we picked randomly.
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(July 19th, 2013, 21:36)Half-Nose Harry Wrote: Meta speculation right out of the gate it seems.

(July 19th, 2013, 17:44)Lady Elizabeth Wrote: I do mean that post. lol

I see your point. There is no way for a wolf to know that a villager's role PM talks about werewolfs. (I think brick would post a sample PM in the thread rather than giving it to the wolfs).

(July 19th, 2013, 17:46)Lady Elizabeth Wrote: I re-read my role-PM and the only other piece of information is that I was given a last name. Do you think this matters at all guys?

Are you claiming vanilla town?

(July 19th, 2013, 18:07)Muriel The Slow Wrote:
(July 19th, 2013, 17:46)Lady Elizabeth Wrote: I re-read my role-PM and the only other piece of information is that I was given a last name. Do you think this matters at all guys?

Yes, it most definitely matters. If it didn't, it would have been included in your profile name. There has to be a reason why it is hidden.

Do you truly believe that the last names or lack thereof matters, or are you just trying to wind him/her up more?

(July 19th, 2013, 21:42)Friar Andrew Wrote: Sir Percival, for being more influential than me.

How exactly is Muriel's post a wall of text? It's 2 paragraphs, and ~10 lines on my screen. Seems an entirely appropriate length for a mildly elaborate "hey idiots, stop analysing useless meta" post.

Lacking a surname here as well.

Two scummy opening posts posted one after the other.

I'll go with John's favourite over Jon's favourite for now.

(July 20th, 2013, 02:38)Scarlet John Wrote: Friar Andrew, for defending someone while simultaneously making a joke vote and contributing to the "useless meta" surrounding surnames.

Friar Andrew

I also think Muriel is showing some questionable reasoning. And Sarah should definitely explain the handwaving thing.

I'll get back to the Lady Liz thing.
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