WW26: The Masquerade [Game Thread]

[Muriel The Slow]

i love it if will contributes more, but right now i consider him null tell. i do not declare will innocent. i think that quoted will post less scummy than those who believe muriel contribute positively.

i agree will need to lift contribution tho.

I have to side with Rob on Scarlet John.
Sir Percival, while I can guess from context what the new scumtells on Muriel are, it wouldn't hurt to state them.
I have some followup questions on Muriel's case against Simple Mary but I would like Simple Mary to comment first.

last night, protest about use of emotional language. today, massive use of emotional language.
also bizarre policy lynch on scarlet john, even after better content* than any of muriel's billion posts.

add to awful day 1 and it clear muriel is bad for town

* personal opinion

Thank you And don't be scared to answer straight to me, even if you think I'm scum.

[Rob The Filch]

You haven't even read my post, have you?

I read your post and I disagree. Its pretty much as simple as that. I don't think John is a good lynch. You think its a wolf ploy. I do not.

Would be nice if you would also explain what you believe are such great insights.

Not every post from every player has great insights. To go to the extreme and say they are great I would not. I think they are villagery contributions though and I will follow up in my next post looking at some of them.

If he's scum and he's still hanging around in 2 days and seems scummy lets addres it then. Honestly I'm not getting any scum vibes from him. I don't see him suspicious at all.

See Agnes, I didn't even need to wait till D3 to get prove for my point. There is already the first one to tell you that we should give him time. And I promise that attitude won't change. John will just have to post 2-3 points, probably enough to just rephrase what others stated at that point already ("now cut him some slack, he didn't have time earlier to post...") and he'll be given till it is too late.

I'm not for policy lynches. I don't like them never have. I'm not Zak. If he is still around on Day 4 when there are less people in the game then he will stand out more and at that point, yes I will be looking at him very hard. You seem pretty confident about what i WILL do in the future. No one can know what I'll do. Hell I DON'T KNOW HAT I'LL DO!

He didn't say he wasn't going to do shit. He actually did shit today. More shit than you did in all your posts today. You're the one pontificating and doing jack shit.

Scarlet John because we have to, no matter what alignment you really are.

Oh yes! We have to lynch him! Who cares if he's a villager! We don't know when he'll stop contributing! Who cares if he just posted coherent and thoughtful posts! He could flake out on us at anytime, so we have to lynch him NOW!

Please cut the emotional shit. It really gets annoying Rob. If you have points to make, make them. If you just want to scream around like a toddler, do it somewhere else.

I posted my reasons clearly with my vote. But hey you don't give a shit about that right? I mean you are wolfy after all.

Your rehash of the Mary suspicious at first glance appears valid, but then you say she's never answered why she switched from me to you, but you seem to ignore the posts leading through and after the switch. People change their minds in WW. Is that a hard concept for you to understand Muriel? I know you're slow. It'll be okay.

Mary switched from you to her, but when she did so, she still stated that she is not convinced of her guilt. That's basically saying "Let me jump on the wagon, even though I don't like the direction it is taking"... Imo that is a valid point. Even if we assume that she somehow came to the conclusion that you are not suspicious despite acting as before, just voting for someone while stating the one you vote for is probably not guilty isn't making sense.

When Mary came back she reiterated her opinion. If she was looking to jump on the bandwagon she could have jumped on the friar. She didn't.

The highlighted bit is the worst. You have a choice. But you are making it seem like we have NO choice. Your hands are tied. You wash the blood. Pontius Pilate reincarnated!

And again the emotional shit. I think Muriel explained pretty clearly why she thinks we have no choice. If that is true or not can be discussed. But to do so, you should outline why we have a choice and which choice that is. I've explained before why I don't see it as valid to just wait till D4, if you differ, explain it. If you can't, at least don't scream around.

I have explained it you haven't quoted it. Scarlet isn't voting for anyone. If he wants to be modkilled he won't vote for anyone. If he sneak votes for someone I will reopen his case. You and Muriel keep saying you have no choice. Your reasoning comes down to the idea that the village will keep lettign him have time. And you say that he'll just keep coming up with reasons not to be lynched. Fine, but that would require him to vote. He votes he's fair game, IMO. I don't want to waste the lynch. Lynching is the only power us villagers have. And you want to waste it. You want to waste an entire day sitting on a policy lynch not hunting.

One last thing, you don't quote where Muriel says she won't blame herself for the loss. I highlighted that because I feel it shows she doesn't care whether the village loses. And Ibelieve the reason for that is that she is a wolf. I think my "emotional shit" was trying to highlight that. Did you not notice? Or were you too busy trying to attack and discredit me?

Fat Rose you are my number 2 suspect. Statment of fact. Not emotional. Just for you.

[Rob The Filch]

Also, I have no trouble understanding percival. I understand where his opinions are. He is very clear. Just this last post:

i love it if will contributes more, but right now i consider him null tell. i do not declare will innocent. i think that quoted will post less scummy than those who believe muriel contribute positively.

i agree will need to lift contribution tho.

How is this not clear? Short, yes. Brief, yes. But it is not unclear. I do not believe that villagers need to explain everything all the time. Sometimes you guys are ridiculous. Not everything has to be spelled out. When something does then yes turn the screws. But so far I don't ahve any questions about why Percival suspects muriel and what makes her more suspicious today. He posted right after Muriel railed on about a policy lynch.

I'm not going to put any words in his mouth. But I am going to say that I understand and I find it hard to believe that other don't. Unless they are Muriel who is being willfully obtuse and trying to split hairs in order to create reasonable doubt and discredit opponents.

Lynch all lawyers.

You spell it out so that

a) others can weigh your arguments and comment on them
b) it makes certain that you will have to confront and discuss with your target before it dies and can't comment, otherwise it would make it very easy to just vote and if it turns out bad just point to a post or two and state "Oh, but those were scummy, that's why I voted for her". If you instead have to explain before the lynch, the one to be lynched can explain and / or correct you.

And again, your screaming gets annoying. Just because someone is not of your opinion doesn't mean they are sheep. Maybe you should... I don't know, spell out your arguments and convince them instead? Like I explained above...

Hey congrats Percy just spelled out exactly what I thought he would spell out. Why don't you go read it and give me your opinion on it. Because he's right.

[Rob The Filch]

Thank you And don't be scared to answer straight to me, even if you think I'm scum.

You are infuriating. Condecesnding. Patronizing. Self-righteous. My blood boils.

[Muriel The Slow]

Thank you And don't be scared to answer straight to me, even if you think I'm scum.

You are infuriating. Condecesnding. Patronizing. Self-righteous. My blood boils.

Yes i am. That might be the only fact you will ever post in this game.

[Widow Edith]

Sir Percival & Rob

I think we know your feelings about Muriel now but since we have still 31 hours till lynch and I'm sure we have more wolves to hunt I want to ask you whom else you see as scummy and why?
I find providing scum an easy hiding place with an endless debate about Muriel unhelpful. Discussing the pro/cons of a modkill/policylynch of Scarlet ditto. So the above question goes to Muriel, Rose and Dr Saul too.

Not to mention that we have some more Lurkers I would like to hear from (Kate, Mary, Richard, Will).


*crosspost with a lot*

[Rob The Filch]

Thank you And don't be scared to answer straight to me, even if you think I'm scum.

You are infuriating. Condecesnding. Patronizing. Self-righteous. My blood boils.

Yes i am. That might be the only fact you will ever post in this game.

I'm done for the day.

If any of you have a problem with it, and think "Oh that Rob he's openly and directly opposing the village by not posting! We have to policy lynch him!"

You can kiss my ass, kiss my ass, kiss my ass.

[Sir Percival]

other player i read thru was halfnose harry (mustnt be a good fighter, shouldve taken lessons from the best, the best being me, sir percy, yeaaaaahhhh)

thought it odd that most posts were question. not much putting self out there.


also reread tiny dick posts, similar read to young will. more contribution desired but null tell for now

[Muriel The Slow]

Well that's convenient, Rob. I catch you in a lie, prove it with quotes, and suddenly you are too mad to continue posting.

Widow Edith, I would like to hear some opinions on my theory on Mary.

I also agree that there must be lurker wolves (even if I'm right on Rob, Mary and John) so I'd like to hear more from anyone with a low post count.

[Know-Nothing Jon]

The aura of innocence that Rob initially detected on you has dropped, now I sense your menacing demeanor.

This may be a scum tell on Sister Mary. She misunderstood Rob's statements about Muriel's "aura of innocence", and built on those, arguing that Muriel seems less innocent now than she did early on. So maybe she was just taking cues from Rob about how to feel about Muriel, instead of making up her own mind. And then she got it wrong, because she didn't understand what Rob was saying.