WW26: The Masquerade [Game Thread]

[Rob The Filch]

Color me unsurprised. You guys wanted Scarlet John dead, you got it.

Look Muriel is scum. People keep saying that she's so active so we shouldn't lynch her. I seriously don't understand it.

Fat Rose has tunnel vision but hopefully this result will shake him up. Either that or he's a wolf.

Widow Edith is a wolf I'm pretty sure based on the way she's ignore multiple posts by me in other places and keeps sitting on the fence. The entire tone of every post is one of distance.

In summary I will vote to lynch either Muriel or Edith. I believe both are wolves. Fat Rose is third on the list, but I have a feeling he's just a villager playing a bad game.

[Rob The Filch]

I also find Agnes the Orphan to be scummy. Seems to be switching back and forth between allegiances within the game. However, she was on Muriel at the end of the day so there is that.

[Widow Edith]

Widow Edith is a wolf I'm pretty sure based on the way she's ignore multiple posts by me in other places and keeps sitting on the fence.

So lets look through Robs posts:
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attack on Muriel
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4=The first post where Rob writes more then 1 sentence. Still attacking Muriel (like in those posts before)
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6 =The first longer post still attacking Muriel
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So far 10 posts all centering on Muriel and nobody else. And that on D1. Picking one target and hammering on it. No looking left or right.

But now Scarlet brings up the Friar and look
11 Rob states if here were not voting Muriel he would vote the Friar. No original thought at all. Just riding the coattail.

then Muriel makes her post about Sister Mary and suddenly Rob says

I actually agree with your points about Sister Mary.

How much time until deadline? And what is the vote count?

He spent 11 posts to tell everyone how scummy Muriel is and then a 180°-turn siding with her.
And sets the train in motion:
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followed by huge post damning Sister Mary
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but his conviction that Sister Mary is scum is shortlived
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and in the end it is Muriel again
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That concludes his D1. 16 posts nearly all of them on the theme Muriel is scum. Not one of it contains a single mention of me or a question to me. The next post will contain his Night 1 and D2.

[Rob The Filch]

Edith I find it hilarious that you decide to look through my posts trying to paint me scum without saying that? Let me save you the trouble. All of my posts are focused on Muriel because I'm 100% convinced she's scum. So far I haven't seen anyone else lynch a wolf.

But what gets me is that All of a sudden, you're going to start trying to go through my posts. You haven't done this to anyone else in the game and this is the first time you haven't just sat on the side. Congratulations it only took someone calling you out to actively try to participate. Your attitude is a 180. Scared?

[Fat Rose]

I suppose you are right that I was wrong Rob. I still think telling others to kiss your ass is not the right way to interact with each other. Anyhow, I'm sorry that I aggravated you, I sure had my part in that whole episode as well.

As for Muriel: I'm not sure I agree that she is a wolf. Yes the timing of her reveal is a little bit odd at first glance, but if you think about it, what difference would it make to wait till tomorrow? She could draw a nightkill on herself, but it seems that's her plan anyhow, to force the wolves to nightkill her, so the village doesn't need to waste a lynch on her. I don't like the pathetic tone of her post though, even though I believe her that she indeed is the double-voter. But her claim that wolves would have found out eventually is very weak. Those are the votes of D1 and D2 that both voted for the double-voted target and therefore could have had the double-vote:

D1: Bert the Bard, Know-Nothing Jon, Lady Elizabeth, Half-Nose Harry, Muriel the Slow, Fat Rose
D2: Bert the Bard, Know-Nothing Jon, Lady Elizabeth, Half-Nose Harry, Muriel the Slow, Fat Rose

That's 6 players. I doubt that wolves were anywhere near having identified the owner of the double-vote. And if the wolves do have 2 nightkills every night that game might well be over before they would have found out. Still, as said above, if she wants to draw a nightkill onto herself it doesn't matter if she reveals who the role has.

[Fat Rose]

Widow Edith is a wolf I'm pretty sure based on the way she's ignore multiple posts by me in other places and keeps sitting on the fence. The entire tone of every post is one of distance.

Maybe I don't understand your point Rob, but didn't you write above that she ignored multiple of your posts? Obviously to check on that fact one has to go through them (I don't think you expect anyone to remember all of them, right?). Now you say she is scum for doing that. But if she had ignored it, she would have been scum as well obviously. So what would be your expected reaction from a villager?

[Rob The Filch]

If you are looking for where you ignored me Edith, I particularly felt that you ignored this post of mine, and this is mostly what I was referring to.

BTW: novice had just 60 posts when he was lynched D3 Muriel has now already 45

Novice was not fully attacked until that day. Muriel has been under fire and defensively posting since the very beginning. To ignore that fact is not accurately representing the two situations. Post count goes up when actively defending.

I will admit that lynching Muriel straight-away does not give us as much information, but then that is why I voted for Sister Mary earlier, to push on a connected point and see what information I could find.

Just to show you that I was not lying or slandering when I said you ignored my posts.

[Rob The Filch]

Widow Edith is a wolf I'm pretty sure based on the way she's ignore multiple posts by me in other places and keeps sitting on the fence. The entire tone of every post is one of distance.

Maybe I don't understand your point Rob, but didn't you write above that she ignored multiple of your posts? Obviously to check on that fact one has to go through them (I don't think you expect anyone to remember all of them, right?). Now you say she is scum for doing that. But if she had ignored it, she would have been scum as well obviously. So what would be your expected reaction from a villager?

My expected reaction would be for her to look through my posts and see if she could find something she missed. Instead she is posting all of my posts in a row and dissecting them trying to make me appear scummy by only commenting on some of them.

[Rob The Filch]

I might even be willing to lynch Edith over Muriel as crazy as that might be.

[Widow Edith]

Continuing with Rob:
A oneliner saying nothing at all.
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But then his first encounter with me actually 3 posts starting with

the prevailing theme of not lynch muriel was she had somehow contributed more. i not see it.

At least she talked a lot and tried to get people talking which in my book is far better then sitting on the sidelines making jokeposts or keeping silent/not playing at all. Were all her posts wells of insight? No of course not but I rather have her alive and contributing. If she is scum she will betray herself (and maybe even her wolfbuddies) if we give her enough time.

And novice as a wolf didn't post a lot and defend a lot last game?

Her posts were mudslinging and intentionally MISLEADING.

Oh a merrily we go! Let the wolf alive! Soner or later she'll tell us we were right! Happily to the noose she'll go! WE JUST NEED TO GIVE HER ENOUGH TIME!

Hey there is a question in it. It concerns novices play in the last game.
He follows up with

the prevailing theme of not lynch muriel was she had somehow contributed more. i not see it.

At least she talked a lot and tried to get people talking which in my book is far better then sitting on the sidelines making jokeposts or keeping silent/not playing at all. Were all her posts wells of insight? No of course not but I rather have her alive and contributing. If she is scum she will betray herself (and maybe even her wolfbuddies) if we give her enough time.

I just cannot get over how bad this post is. You are either naive and just the worst kind of villager who equates activity with innocence or you are scum trying to buy more time for your wolfscum buddy.

This is why the village has been trending towards losing every game on RB WW. The village has become to afraid of lynching someone who defends because we might possibly be killing off a contributor. In fact it seems that it now takes unquestionable power role proof to lynch any vocal wolves. Instead we simply allow the village to shift to the easiest lynch, the one who's not online, the villager who sticks his neck out too far, or the villager who gets confused or is unable to keep up. The wolves have gotten good at defense and the villagers have become sheep unwilling to make a tough call. This post is a travesty.

Muriel is a wolf.

No question in it at all. Still riding the Muriel = scum waggon. And of course anyone not voting Muriel is scum.
After I answered his question about novice he is not happy with it:

BTW: novice had just 60 posts when he was lynched D3 Muriel has now already 45

Novice was not fully attacked until that day. Muriel has been under fire and defensively posting since the very beginning. To ignore that fact is not accurately representing the two situations. Post count goes up when actively defending.

I will admit that lynching Muriel straight-away does not give us as much information, but then that is why I voted for Sister Mary earlier, to push on a connected point and see what information I could find.

Note he is still sure that Muriel is scum and he concedes that lynching Muriel straight-away is not giving that much information. Now I'm puzzled First it was a clear sign of scumminess to not lynch Muriel and now it is suddenly pro-townplay because it might give us more information? What is it Rob? Oh and there is no question for me in there.

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22 An attack on Short Richard for his late vote. Do note that he attacks him because he jumped on a leading waggon. Compare that with his accusation that I'm fencesitting
23 = One good post of him. rekindling a fight with Muriel
24= continuing the fight
25=and now we are back on voting Muriel
26= talk about modkill but omits that one can always ask the GM to get removed imediatly
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So far that's 12 posts covering his night and the start of D2. It contains 1 question atowards me regarding novices play in WW25 which I answered. Lets look if the questions appear in his next posts:

Starting his fight with Rose:
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30Intermezzo
31=throwing unfriendly words on Muriel
32=And here he tells us that he is finished with the day and we can kiss his ass. He doesn't come back till well after the lynch to tell us again how scummy those are that suspect him.