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WW26: The Masquerade [Game Thread]

(July 29th, 2013, 09:52)Widow Edith Wrote:
(July 29th, 2013, 09:41)Muriel The Slow Wrote: And I asked you a real question. Why I posted that reply to you makes sense, I've already explained how I feel about Will's role and the secrecy around it. What doesn't make sense is your reply to mine. By saying "Why are you posting this", you imply that I'm a villager who's ruining your plan to fool the wolves, but in the previous page you just called me a wolf. This is conflicting, perhaps you slipped up even? wink

No I'm absolutely not implying you are a villager. I ask you a question because I'm interested for your reasoning which you didn't explain again.

You are a selfproclaimed double-voter so how comes you are so sure about Will's power that there can't be any additional things left? I also note that once Bert flipped you were fast to explain that he must have used his vig-shot on the first night and other things. And again I ask me the question why and how comes she is so sure about it?

BTW If I said these things to fool the wolves why do you believe your talk about it makes you look like a villager?

You were implying it. I think you slipped up, not just in your reply to me, but also in your reply to Will. If you honestly thought I was a wolf, like you claimed just a page ago, then you would not have tried to fool the wolves by trying to fool them about Will's role. Why fool the wolves if they already know? I reckon you forgot this little detail and slipped up.
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(July 29th, 2013, 09:59)Muriel The Slow Wrote:
(July 29th, 2013, 09:52)Widow Edith Wrote:
(July 29th, 2013, 09:41)Muriel The Slow Wrote: And I asked you a real question. Why I posted that reply to you makes sense, I've already explained how I feel about Will's role and the secrecy around it. What doesn't make sense is your reply to mine. By saying "Why are you posting this", you imply that I'm a villager who's ruining your plan to fool the wolves, but in the previous page you just called me a wolf. This is conflicting, perhaps you slipped up even? wink

No I'm absolutely not implying you are a villager. I ask you a question because I'm interested for your reasoning which you didn't explain again.

You are a selfproclaimed double-voter so how comes you are so sure about Will's power that there can't be any additional things left? I also note that once Bert flipped you were fast to explain that he must have used his vig-shot on the first night and other things. And again I ask me the question why and how comes she is so sure about it?

BTW If I said these things to fool the wolves why do you believe your talk about it makes you look like a villager?

You were implying it. I think you slipped up, not just in your reply to me, but also in your reply to Will. If you honestly thought I was a wolf, like you claimed just a page ago, then you would not have tried to fool the wolves by trying to fool them about Will's role. Why fool the wolves if they already know? I reckon you forgot this little detail and slipped up.

No Muriel me asking you "Why did you post what you did" is in no way or circumstance a sign that I believe you to be village. It is a looking at your thoughts and reasons which so far you have still failed to explain. If you are a villager (as you claim) and believe that I laid a trap for the wolves why did you post what you did? Tell me what is the sign of villagerness in that.
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And dear Muriel you have not answered why you are so sure to know everything about Wills role.
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(July 29th, 2013, 10:08)Widow Edith Wrote:
(July 29th, 2013, 09:59)Muriel The Slow Wrote:
(July 29th, 2013, 09:52)Widow Edith Wrote:
(July 29th, 2013, 09:41)Muriel The Slow Wrote: And I asked you a real question. Why I posted that reply to you makes sense, I've already explained how I feel about Will's role and the secrecy around it. What doesn't make sense is your reply to mine. By saying "Why are you posting this", you imply that I'm a villager who's ruining your plan to fool the wolves, but in the previous page you just called me a wolf. This is conflicting, perhaps you slipped up even? wink

No I'm absolutely not implying you are a villager. I ask you a question because I'm interested for your reasoning which you didn't explain again.

You are a selfproclaimed double-voter so how comes you are so sure about Will's power that there can't be any additional things left? I also note that once Bert flipped you were fast to explain that he must have used his vig-shot on the first night and other things. And again I ask me the question why and how comes she is so sure about it?

BTW If I said these things to fool the wolves why do you believe your talk about it makes you look like a villager?

You were implying it. I think you slipped up, not just in your reply to me, but also in your reply to Will. If you honestly thought I was a wolf, like you claimed just a page ago, then you would not have tried to fool the wolves by trying to fool them about Will's role. Why fool the wolves if they already know? I reckon you forgot this little detail and slipped up.

No Muriel me asking you "Why did you post what you did" is in no way or circumstance a sign that I believe you to be village. It is a looking at your thoughts and reasons which so far you have still failed to explain. If you are a villager (as you claim) and believe that I laid a trap for the wolves why did you post what you did? Tell me what is the sign of villagerness in that.

I said this before, I'll say it again, just to amuse you. Now two pages ago, you claimed that I was a wolf for sure and it was the one explanation that made sense to you. Then, on the next page from that, you try to set up a trap on the wolves in your reply to Will, despite the fact if I was a wolf, the wolves would already know Will's role, and there would be no reason to try to trick them.

(July 29th, 2013, 10:13)Widow Edith Wrote: And dear Muriel you have not answered why you are so sure to know everything about Wills role.

I read it on a wiki and it fits perfectly. And if you think that there is something additional to it, shouldn't you, you know, shut up about it and let the wolves think that it's simply a friendly neighbor role and there isn't anything more to it? Since you are so sure that I'm a wolf, and I clearly believe that Will is just a friendly neighbor, therefore in your mind it must mean the wolves believe that Will is just a friendly neighbor.

I think I've made my point. I promised to not argue, and this is heading that way, so I'm done for now.
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Muriel, that makes no sense. You believe you know everything about Wills role, but according to him he never used it on you. So why would the wolves know everything about it, even if you are one and if you are not one, how would you know that they know everything about it already? The only explanations I can see are

1) you are a role scanner, not a double-voter and lied
2) you are a role scanner AND a double-voter
3) you are a wolf and your wolf-buddy role-scanner told you

So, what is it?
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John revealed that Will visited Bert. Bert claimed Will is innocent. Therefore, Will is the friendly neighbor. I figured this out, so if I was a wolf, then the wolves would know it. Edith claimed that I am a wolf, but still thinks the wolves don't know Will's role. That is a conflict. A conflict that I think happened because Edith is really a wolf who knows that I'm a villager, she slipped up and forgot that her village-character is supposed to think that Muriel is a wolf.
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*sigh*

You did not simply figure it out, you posted it in this thread. IN THIS THREAD. The wolves know you believe Will is a friendly neighbour in any case and therefore if they trust your assessment they know his role. Point.

Your alignment makes no difference for that. It simply is completely unimportant if you are a villager or a wolf at this point, the wolves know in any case what you think Wills role is because you posted it.

I mean come on, you claim that there is a conflict in Ediths posts and that she forgot that if you were a wolf the wolves would know what you think about Wills role. But you posted your thoughts in this thread. They know anyhow, so there simply can't be a conflict, even if she had posted what you attribute to her, what she never did as far as I can see.

Apart from that, you are EXTREMELY certain, certain beyond doubt even, that Will is a friendly neighbour and nothing more. But Edith was the one being visited by him, not you. Should you not rather reassess your own evaluation if she - with more information - hints to something else, instead of acting as if you would KNOW for certain, that there is nothing more to his role?
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(July 29th, 2013, 11:15)Muriel The Slow Wrote: John revealed that Will visited Bert. Bert claimed Will is innocent. Therefore, Will is the friendly neighbor. I figured this out, so if I was a wolf, then the wolves would know it. Edith claimed that I am a wolf, but still thinks the wolves don't know Will's role. That is a conflict.

Dear Muriel. 1)You posted openly about Will being friendly neighbour so no matter what the wolves know that your alignment makes no difference here.

2) What I still claim is that you can't know everything about Wills role and your assurance that you do makes one wonder why you are so sure. Again (you have not answered it before) Why are you so sure that Will is exactly that and nothing else or beyond or a mixture of roles or what ever? Will has never talked about his role. So what makes you so sure if not you (or one of your buddies) scanned him before?

3) If you are so sure about Will's role why did you claim he is a wolf?
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Because I'm not a fucking idiot. Yes, you are right, I didn't know 100% that he is the friendly neighbor. But I knew 99% sure that he is it. To me, the obvious answer is the correct answer. This extends to the entirety of this game. A ton of people here seem to think that people doing villagery things must be wolves trying to get villager credit. Villagers sticking their necks out for the good of the village must be wolves taking unnecessary risks to get villager credit. Works the other way around too, when people act obviously scummy like Rob or Percival, for some reason a lot of you think that they can't be scum because it's too obvious. Same thing with the whole fool/wolf debate. If Saul was a fool, we would have gotten extremely unlucky. The odds of him being a fool are much lower than the odds of him being a wolf, and that's why I think he is a wolf. If I wasn't such a competitive person I would tell you to just fucking lynch me so my point is proven. But I want to win this thing.
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I don't think you understand Muriel. Lynching me would be bad. You don't want that.
We should look into Sir Percival more. He has been faking his posting i think
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