What are the odds that they just take the units, 
and capture our cities with them? 
and capture our cities with them?
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 (July 31st, 2013, 05:22)Fintourist Wrote: What are the odds that they just take the units, Based on their dealings so far I don't see CivPlayers doing that. Not sure about Apolyton. But if we think its an issue how about if we keep control of the units until we gift them on the turn before they enter CIVFr territory? That way if they turn right around we'll get some warning and we'll also get visibility on CivPlayers/Apolyton land. Asking to have a war observer along too shouldn't be a deal breaker.
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In progress: Rimworld (July 31st, 2013, 05:48)Old Harry Wrote: But if we think its an issue how about if we keep control of the units until we gift them on the turn before they enter CIVFr territory? That way if they turn right around we'll get some warning and we'll also get visibility on CivPlayers/Apolyton land. I'd rather save the gold and trust them - that's a few hundred gold in unit and supply costs that we save. But a war observer is a good idea. (July 31st, 2013, 05:22)Fintourist Wrote: What are the odds that they just take the units, If someone is going to be that much of a bastard to break their word, we have a "no use on us clause" we gift all our cities and techs to UniversCiv and walk away from the game.
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(July 31st, 2013, 07:03)Brian Shanahan Wrote:(July 31st, 2013, 05:22)Fintourist Wrote: What are the odds that they just take the units, ...and effectively kill the game. 
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Alright, I see near-unanimous support for this, so I'll go for it when I get a few minutes and I see him on chat. Although I should note that this type of strong support makes me think there's no way they'd accept if we like it that much
 . Anyway, given the strong support, I'm going to be willing to offer a sweetener if necessary. Probably something along the lines of being willing not to run counter-espionage against them if they want to leech some techs off us.I also don't think it's crazy to offer either a great person or some sort of gold. I would like to hope it won't come to that. Also, if they don't take this, I think we should take a similar offer to CFC. Something leaning to be a bit more economy-oriented though, given that we'd need our military for the western front.
Just before you send it, I wonder if we should consider making the first offer some kind of equivalent of ~40 units (not 50). I think we will have the chance to raise the offer later if required..
(July 31st, 2013, 08:25)Fintourist Wrote: Just before you send it, I wonder if we should consider making the first offer some kind of equivalent of ~40 units (not 50). I think we will have the chance to raise the offer later if required.. Already offered it since he's on. However, I don't think this is the type of negotiation where lots of haggling is wise. Time is sensitive here, we realistically need a final answer within a day or two. The UCiv thing is really great. I'm thinking we do some intel sharing with them and ask if they want to fund us towards Rifling or whatever in return for repayment with interest. |
