(August 10th, 2013, 19:45)Merovech Wrote: Also, we need to decide exactly where to place our new city in the far south. I'm rather torn between a few locations, to tell the truth.
Do we have a military escort for the current settler somewhere nearby? (the current galley has settler/worker I think) If not, I'd favor as close as possible, even though there's a possible 3 food site further down. We still have no idea whether we're alone on that island or not, and until proven otherwise we should assume the worst. Also, don't forget barbs.
Also, what after Mono? I think with all the intercontinental cities we have, currency is practically a must have. Religion + temple should be enough happy until then.
There is a warrior that is currently scouting but can move into place quickly, especially if we settle further South. Basically, we have to dotmap the south. The food is placed rather strangely, clumped but not totally.
Yeah, I was thinking Math into Currency is a good decision.
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Also, we have more F8 pop than Yuri, 12.15% to 12.00%.
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4. Realism: Where possible, the terrain of the map should be realistic. Jungles on desert tiles, or even next to desert tiles, should therefore have a very specific reason for existing. Rivers should run downhill or across level ground into bodies of water. Irrigated terrain should have a higher grassland to plains ratio than dry terrain. Mountain chains should cast rain shadows. Islands, mountains, and peninsulas should follow logical plate tectonics.
Quick chat between WK and I regarding an interesting new facet of the Yuri situation:
Merovech:
Hey, once we reload the turn (BaII's replacement just straight up missed the turn this time) and it rolls correctly, we're going to be faced with an interesting opportunity. Yuri has two unguarded workers on a riverside grassland hill next to our most northern worker. While he has a ton of production, his power is not too much higher than ours, and at least some of that is archery + an archer. I think that we can successfully kill his two workers and defend against him. We might even be able to keep the workers (I think that if he had any significant military in the area, he would have covered the workers; he did so before when it was just one worker). However, I think that this is also a sign that Yuri wants peace. He probably knows that he expanded into territory on which we have a reasonable claim, and doesn't want to have to war to defend it. I think that if we let this go, we'll have a peaceful North, at least for a while. He also offered us open borders, but there's no way that I'm signing that. This could be a chance to really mess up Yuri's game, and we could gain heavily from that...or we could be forced into a long and tedious war that sucks all of our demographic advantage away from the economic snowball and watches Serdoa waltz to victory.
WK:
Interesting opportunity, although I don't think we should take it. I don't peg Yuri as the guy who would seriously consider guarding his workers at every oppurtunity, so I wouldn't interpret not guarding them as a sign of peace. However if you do take them, I don't think yuri is going to make peace until we put him in a position where he has more to gain from making peace then continuing the war (ie we're about to take a city), and until that time he will be building military (including Impi's...). Assuming we don't present ourselves as a target, I doubt yuri will attack us anytime soon as he needs to fix his GNP. Is risking a full out war worth 2 workers? Not in our case, we're in a strong enough position that we want to avoid high variance plays like weak DOW's.[/color]
Merovech:
Okay, cool. I was leaning towards that being the right play (if maybe not the most fun play...jk, jk), but I wanted to hear your opinion
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3. Feel (Avoiding Gimmicks): The map should not be overwhelmed or dominated by the mapmaker's flavor. Embellishment of the map through the use of special improvements, barbarian units, and abnormal terrain can enhance the identity and enjoyment of the map, but should take a backseat to the more normal aspects of the map. The game should usually not revolve around the flavor, but merely be accented by it.
4. Realism: Where possible, the terrain of the map should be realistic. Jungles on desert tiles, or even next to desert tiles, should therefore have a very specific reason for existing. Rivers should run downhill or across level ground into bodies of water. Irrigated terrain should have a higher grassland to plains ratio than dry terrain. Mountain chains should cast rain shadows. Islands, mountains, and peninsulas should follow logical plate tectonics.
(August 11th, 2013, 14:41)Merovech Wrote: Also, we have more F8 pop than Yuri, 12.15% to 12.00%.
Yuri van have 12,99 and will still be showed like 12 so its not sure you stay better.
Wait, his F8 pop won't show decimals, but ours does? That's weird.
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0. Player Requests: The player's requests take precedence, even if they contradict the following guidelines.
1. Balance: The map must be balanced, both in regards to land quality and availability and in regards to special civilization features. A map may be wonderfully unique and surprising, but, if it is unbalanced, the game will suffer and the player's enjoyment will not be as high as it could be.
2. Identity and Enjoyment: The map should be interesting to play at all levels, from city placement and management to the border-created interactions between civilizations, and should include varied terrain. Flavor should enhance the inherent pleasure resulting from the underlying tile arrangements. The map should not be exceedingly lush, but it is better to err on the lush side than on the poor side when placing terrain.
3. Feel (Avoiding Gimmicks): The map should not be overwhelmed or dominated by the mapmaker's flavor. Embellishment of the map through the use of special improvements, barbarian units, and abnormal terrain can enhance the identity and enjoyment of the map, but should take a backseat to the more normal aspects of the map. The game should usually not revolve around the flavor, but merely be accented by it.
4. Realism: Where possible, the terrain of the map should be realistic. Jungles on desert tiles, or even next to desert tiles, should therefore have a very specific reason for existing. Rivers should run downhill or across level ground into bodies of water. Irrigated terrain should have a higher grassland to plains ratio than dry terrain. Mountain chains should cast rain shadows. Islands, mountains, and peninsulas should follow logical plate tectonics.
(August 11th, 2013, 14:41)Merovech Wrote: Also, we have more F8 pop than Yuri, 12.15% to 12.00%.
Yuri van have 12,99 and will still be showed like 12 so its not sure you stay better.
Wait, his F8 pop won't show decimals, but ours does? That's weird.
Rival best is rounded down to nearest whole number, so we may not be in the lead. Can't deny that we're neck and neck though.
Okay. That's pretty interesting, actually.
I switched us into Org. Religion this turn, so we can't go into caste for another 5, but I think that we might want to do so then. I'm pretty sure that I can clear a 5 turn time period where we don't need any whips, and hurrying that first great scientist will be a huge boon for our already great researching power.
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0. Player Requests: The player's requests take precedence, even if they contradict the following guidelines.
1. Balance: The map must be balanced, both in regards to land quality and availability and in regards to special civilization features. A map may be wonderfully unique and surprising, but, if it is unbalanced, the game will suffer and the player's enjoyment will not be as high as it could be.
2. Identity and Enjoyment: The map should be interesting to play at all levels, from city placement and management to the border-created interactions between civilizations, and should include varied terrain. Flavor should enhance the inherent pleasure resulting from the underlying tile arrangements. The map should not be exceedingly lush, but it is better to err on the lush side than on the poor side when placing terrain.
3. Feel (Avoiding Gimmicks): The map should not be overwhelmed or dominated by the mapmaker's flavor. Embellishment of the map through the use of special improvements, barbarian units, and abnormal terrain can enhance the identity and enjoyment of the map, but should take a backseat to the more normal aspects of the map. The game should usually not revolve around the flavor, but merely be accented by it.
4. Realism: Where possible, the terrain of the map should be realistic. Jungles on desert tiles, or even next to desert tiles, should therefore have a very specific reason for existing. Rivers should run downhill or across level ground into bodies of water. Irrigated terrain should have a higher grassland to plains ratio than dry terrain. Mountain chains should cast rain shadows. Islands, mountains, and peninsulas should follow logical plate tectonics.
Slow and Yuri have open borders, btw. Yuri is trading us a crab for a fish, also. I forgot to mention that.
Merovech's Mapmaking Guidelines:
0. Player Requests: The player's requests take precedence, even if they contradict the following guidelines.
1. Balance: The map must be balanced, both in regards to land quality and availability and in regards to special civilization features. A map may be wonderfully unique and surprising, but, if it is unbalanced, the game will suffer and the player's enjoyment will not be as high as it could be.
2. Identity and Enjoyment: The map should be interesting to play at all levels, from city placement and management to the border-created interactions between civilizations, and should include varied terrain. Flavor should enhance the inherent pleasure resulting from the underlying tile arrangements. The map should not be exceedingly lush, but it is better to err on the lush side than on the poor side when placing terrain.
3. Feel (Avoiding Gimmicks): The map should not be overwhelmed or dominated by the mapmaker's flavor. Embellishment of the map through the use of special improvements, barbarian units, and abnormal terrain can enhance the identity and enjoyment of the map, but should take a backseat to the more normal aspects of the map. The game should usually not revolve around the flavor, but merely be accented by it.
4. Realism: Where possible, the terrain of the map should be realistic. Jungles on desert tiles, or even next to desert tiles, should therefore have a very specific reason for existing. Rivers should run downhill or across level ground into bodies of water. Irrigated terrain should have a higher grassland to plains ratio than dry terrain. Mountain chains should cast rain shadows. Islands, mountains, and peninsulas should follow logical plate tectonics.
Ugh, another Yuri city towards us (by the corn). I'm starting to get uncomfortable. If he continues South...well, we'll have copper in a few turns, and we have a lot of pop that we can burn. I'd prefer to whip economic buildings, workers, and settlers, but if we need a military, a military we can make.
Merovech's Mapmaking Guidelines:
0. Player Requests: The player's requests take precedence, even if they contradict the following guidelines.
1. Balance: The map must be balanced, both in regards to land quality and availability and in regards to special civilization features. A map may be wonderfully unique and surprising, but, if it is unbalanced, the game will suffer and the player's enjoyment will not be as high as it could be.
2. Identity and Enjoyment: The map should be interesting to play at all levels, from city placement and management to the border-created interactions between civilizations, and should include varied terrain. Flavor should enhance the inherent pleasure resulting from the underlying tile arrangements. The map should not be exceedingly lush, but it is better to err on the lush side than on the poor side when placing terrain.
3. Feel (Avoiding Gimmicks): The map should not be overwhelmed or dominated by the mapmaker's flavor. Embellishment of the map through the use of special improvements, barbarian units, and abnormal terrain can enhance the identity and enjoyment of the map, but should take a backseat to the more normal aspects of the map. The game should usually not revolve around the flavor, but merely be accented by it.
4. Realism: Where possible, the terrain of the map should be realistic. Jungles on desert tiles, or even next to desert tiles, should therefore have a very specific reason for existing. Rivers should run downhill or across level ground into bodies of water. Irrigated terrain should have a higher grassland to plains ratio than dry terrain. Mountain chains should cast rain shadows. Islands, mountains, and peninsulas should follow logical plate tectonics.
