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[SPOILER] Sareln and Spices
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(August 5th, 2013, 20:53)Sareln Wrote: I changed my mind, Azza is terrible at CIV in this game. No guilds -> no banking -> no Rep. Parts -> No Rifles. How does he plan to win w/out them? My problem was I hadn't developed my economy anywhere near enough to be able to beeline Rifles. I'd gone Astronomy to try and claim the intercontinental islands, and needed Gunpowder so I could defend against Fintourist's Jannisseries. From there, Chemistry -> Mil Sci was a much quicker, safer way to defend myself against imminent Rifles (I could see Fintourist's research). (September 1st, 2013, 06:13)Azza Wrote:(August 5th, 2013, 20:53)Sareln Wrote: I changed my mind, Azza is terrible at CIV in this game. No guilds -> no banking -> no Rep. Parts -> No Rifles. How does he plan to win w/out them? That makes more sense. Hope you're not too offended by that  . I was sort of running on the assumption that you had pumped out a bunch of cities and were just in the process of gearing up as those cities finished their courthouses etc. So I guess I was overestimating your GNP capacity as well.
That was the plan, but early game I didn't have the worker support to get the cottages up, and then probably overwhipped to prevent them from developing.
No offense taken, because I'm well aware I'm not the greatest at this game (to say the least), and I can only assume this game would've been immensely frustrating for you after Fintourist's attack.
Thank you Sareln for the game! Before my boating attack succeeded, this game really looked like becoming a tough race between us and who knows what would have happened. I really think that you leveraged EXP&IMP well and built a strong economy.
I felt kind of forced to attack you also because my other neighbor, Azza, was expanding way faster than Viqsi and Hydra, which ment that you would have had a lot more room peaceful room to expand. (At that time I did not know that there were that many astronomy-required-islands available). (November 27th, 2012, 15:03)Sareln Wrote: Umm, I just popped gold on one of my capital hills... time to take the money and run? Damn that gold made me first wonder about your huge early GNP (I thought I had a high commerce and I was Financial..!) and later just jealous.  (January 17th, 2013, 03:45)Sareln Wrote: Stonehenge went last turn, I got 8 pieces of fail gold, which amusingly is enough gold to let me 3-turn writing... hammers well spent says I... So you had started to build it and my paranoia was not completely unnecessary! Only mostly..  Btw, 1-turning the GLH was a fine piece of work. (February 22nd, 2013, 17:53)Sareln Wrote: Both Fintourist and Viqsi are allowing open borders right now, and this is amazingly good for me as the foreign trade routes are probably worth the GNP difference between me and Fintourist right now. Maintaining open borders with you after everybody had already opened them was a continuous Prisoners Dilemma for me.  During my attack they of course ended up helping me and were valuable.(February 26th, 2013, 14:15)Sareln Wrote: (He also landed Confucianism since he did a huge swap to HR, OR, Caste at the start of the GA and I'm assuming he's aiming to have Bureaucracy in hand before the end of it). I think this was probably my strongest economical play during this game and really helped me to win Liberalism & Music artist. Okay, State Property workshops and drafting were later great as well.. (April 24th, 2013, 13:34)Sareln Wrote: I launched a golden age on T122 and swapped into Caste and Pacifism. Aiming to Lib Nationalism and then backfill while drafting for defense and building Taj Mahal and following that with my 2 person golden age to get to rifles and astronomy/chemistry boats in front of Fintourist, then kill him (neighbor + rival -> other neighbor unlikely to intervene and his neighbor (azza) likely to jump on him as well). I think this was a realistic scenario, or at least we would have dragged each other down and someone else would have mopped us.. Luckily I did not gamble too much with Liberalism and my lead held despite your crazy tech push.I also wonder that you did not go for Nationalism after our lib race ended. With IND bonus you could have still won the race to Taj. Okay, I managed until T122.. I'll save the rest for later
September 2nd, 2013, 11:40
(This post was last modified: September 2nd, 2013, 13:10 by Fintourist.)
 (May 2nd, 2013, 12:32)Sareln Wrote: Mental note: looking over the bulb lists, nothing pops out as being to bulb liberalism quickly... Hmm.. I think I always thought that you could bulb Liberalism somehow, but now I realize that the fact that Alphabet enables PP is a problem.. (May 7th, 2013, 22:54)Sareln Wrote: Beaten by 1 bloody turn. Ouch.  As you can read from my thread, I could have squeezed it in 1 turn earlier, but yeah, it was a close race. Diverting to Music almost cost me Lib, which of course was the 1st priority..I think I have said it already elsewhere, but having research visibility on you was huge and really enabled me to control those races. (June 9th, 2013, 20:23)Sareln Wrote: I messed up and didn't realize Fintourist had Astronomy in hand. Now I lose as he opens by razing 4 cities...  In hindsight this move really was the game decider - which from the lurker perspective is probably a real pity. This game could have easily developed into a massive industrial world war with us burning endless amounts of hammers until there were again 5 contenders..To be continued...
Finally managed to continue reading!
(July 1st, 2013, 23:33)Sareln Wrote: Question for Fintourist at End of Game: why hit BaII instead of Azza at this juncture? You've got Janissaries and Azza has just gotten to Gunpowder so you can push his army around right now to cut him down to a more manageable number of cities. BaII can't really touch you. Odds on if you beat Azza even in a limited manner, you can probably get a concession from BaII and Viqsi. But even with a successful war against BaII, you've got to fight Azza to secure the win, and it's not clear that you'll get a better matchup than Janissaries vs. few rifles and macemen rather than either janissaries v. muskets or rifles v. redcoats. Just my 2 cents at this point. There were at least couple of reasons why I chose to attack BaII:
(July 24th, 2013, 23:44)Sareln Wrote: My own revenge consists of ~30 muskets, ~12 Frigates, and ~5 Galleons, with whips adding more frigates and muskets as the pop is added. Goal is to burn Fintourist's holdings between me and BaII, because I can, using frigates to bring the defenses down in the cities and even / minor disadvantage odd battles and overwhelming numbers. If I had not manage to end the war against BaII, this attack would have created a lot more problems. Luckily you did not manage to combine your units into one stack and I already had some of my troops coming back from BaII front.. If you had attacked 2-3 turns earlier you would have probably razed at least a city or two. (July 26th, 2013, 19:03)BaII Wrote: Wait he had circumnva? NO wonder he was able to hit cities, that I didn't think he could You totally gifted me at least 2 city razes..(July 31st, 2013, 00:07)Sareln Wrote: 'tis a lot of boats - we've got a ton of hammers in the water right now... Lemongrass was an enormous pain in the ass! Ok, one more thank you for the game! |
