[SPOILERS] Team Orgynized: Parkin/Arki/Magno embark on a kinky adventure

[Lord Parkin]

Huh, the game was down the whole time I was away. Thanks anyway, Arki.

Updated city counts:

Care Bears (5) - T1, T28, T37, T42, T50
EggHeads (3) - T0, T33, T50
Blame Caledorn (3) - T0, T33, T46
Eagles & Condors (3) - T0, T36, T43
Margarita (3) - T0, T38, T52
Gladiator's Glory (2) - T0, T38
Bowsling (2) - T0, T38
Dinosaurs (2) - T0, T39
Orgynized (2) - T0, T42, [T56]
Cannibal Ponies (2) - T0, T49

[Lord Parkin]

On rereading, something bothers me a little about Maga and Asterix's last message.

You were also asking about our relations with Native Americans - they actually offered us NAP to turn 100 first and then even extended it into turn 135. I would not read too much into this, though, we have started to negotiate with them earlier, under "previous management", and their team have undergone complete personal change, too, so it may be the explanation.

When, exactly, did this happen I wonder? The last time they messaged us about E&C was just 3 days before they stopped responding to us (around T20), and at that time they said:

We are discussing NAP with Native Americans of about 50 turns duration, but that was not finalized yet.

Something doesn't add up - either the earlier message wasn't truthful, or the later message implies they had quite a few exchanges back and forth with E&C before finally contacting us again. Which means the communications blackout may not have extended to everyone, perhaps just us. Hmm.

[Lord Parkin]

Revised the proposed message to Margarita. Any thoughts before we send it?

Hi Maga and Asterix,

No worries about the delay, but please have the courtesy to give us a quick heads up if you'll have a prolonged period of absence again.

Sorry about how the EP arrangement worked out... Eagles & Condors were active in diplomacy while you were away and secured the EP agreement instead. We should be meeting another team shortly, so we'll finally be able to shift our espionage focus.

With regards to NAP secrecy, we suggest to either not to discuss it with other teams or just to say we have a NAP and leave it at that. It's not necessary to oblige nations who request the exact length of your NAP's - it's fairly private and powerful information after all.

The Native Americans came to us a while ago looking to extend our NAP, as it seems they did with you. We currently have a NAP to T120 with them, so it looks like they're staggering their end dates with us in case we both decide to attack them later. Not to worry, we could always arrange something closer to T135 if we both want.

We noticed about the Care Bears' crazy expansion... that's certainly a bit of a worry. It must suck to have them as a neighbour, though at least maintenance should be hitting them rather hard right now. As far as we can tell they seem to be at least a tech behind most other civs already. Let us know if there's some way we can help out - though given our distance I'm not sure we can do much right now.

Thanks for the congratulations on Stonehenge. It was not really "ultra-early" though - it's gone around 3000 BC (T25) in some games. You're correct that we founded Hinduism as well recently... if you're lacking a religion down the line then perhaps we could arrange to send a missionary your way.

Kind regards,
Orgynized

[Lord Parkin]

Turn 53

Just a quick visual update.

Domestics

Demographics

[Lord Parkin]

[Arkipeller]

Revised the proposed message to Margarita. Any thoughts before we send it?

Hi Maga and Asterix,

No worries about the delay, but please have the courtesy to give us a quick heads up if you'll have a prolonged period of absence again.

Sorry about how the EP arrangement worked out... Eagles & Condors were active in diplomacy while you were away and secured the EP agreement instead. We should be meeting another team shortly, so we'll finally be able to shift our espionage focus.

With regards to NAP secrecy, we suggest to either not to discuss it with other teams or just to say we have a NAP and leave it at that. It's not necessary to oblige nations who request the exact length of your NAP's - it's fairly private and powerful information after all.

The Native Americans came to us a while ago looking to extend our NAP, as it seems they did with you. We currently have a NAP to T120 with them, so it looks like they're staggering their end dates with us in case we both decide to attack them later. Not to worry, we could always arrange something closer to T135 if we both want.

We noticed about the Care Bears' crazy expansion... that's certainly a bit of a worry. It must suck to have them as a neighbour, though at least maintenance should be hitting them rather hard right now. As far as we can tell they seem to be at least a tech behind most other civs already. Let us know if there's some way we can help out - though given our distance I'm not sure we can do much right now.

Thanks for the congratulations on Stonehenge. It was not really "ultra-early" though - it's gone around 3000 BC (T25) in some games. You're correct that we founded Hinduism as well recently... if you're lacking a religion down the line then perhaps we could arrange to send a missionary your way.

Kind regards,
Orgynized

Looks ok

[Arkipeller]

Revised the proposed message to Margarita. Any thoughts before we send it?

Hi Maga and Asterix,

No worries about the delay, but please have the courtesy to give us a quick heads up if you'll have a prolonged period of absence again.

Sorry about how the EP arrangement worked out... Eagles & Condors were active in diplomacy while you were away and secured the EP agreement instead. We should be meeting another team shortly, so we'll finally be able to shift our espionage focus.

With regards to NAP secrecy, we suggest to either not to discuss it with other teams or just to say we have a NAP and leave it at that. It's not necessary to oblige nations who request the exact length of your NAP's - it's fairly private and powerful information after all.

The Native Americans came to us a while ago looking to extend our NAP, as it seems they did with you. We currently have a NAP to T120 with them, so it looks like they're staggering their end dates with us in case we both decide to attack them later. Not to worry, we could always arrange something closer to T135 if we both want.

We noticed about the Care Bears' crazy expansion... that's certainly a bit of a worry. It must suck to have them as a neighbour, though at least maintenance should be hitting them rather hard right now. As far as we can tell they seem to be at least a tech behind most other civs already. Let us know if there's some way we can help out - though given our distance I'm not sure we can do much right now.

Thanks for the congratulations on Stonehenge. It was not really "ultra-early" though - it's gone around 3000 BC (T25) in some games. You're correct that we founded Hinduism as well recently... if you're lacking a religion down the line then perhaps we could arrange to send a missionary your way.

Kind regards,
Orgynized

Looks ok

[Arkipeller]

Are we going for the great library? It is great scientists included :D
Or are we doing oracle first?

[Lord Parkin]

[Lord Parkin]

Looks ok

Edited slightly and sent.

Hi Maga and Asterix,

No worries about the delay, but please have the courtesy to give us a quick heads up if you'll have a prolonged period of absence again.

Sorry about how the EP arrangement worked out... Eagles & Condors were active in diplomacy while you were away and secured the EP agreement instead. We should be meeting another team shortly, so we'll finally be able to shift our espionage focus away from you.

With regards to NAP secrecy, we suggest to either not to discuss it with other teams or just to say we have a NAP currently in place and leave it at that. It's not necessary to oblige every nation who requests the exact length of your NAP's - it's fairly private and powerful information after all.

The Native Americans came to us a while ago looking to extend our NAP, as it seems they did with you. We currently have a NAP to T120 with them, so it looks like they're staggering their end dates with us in case we both decide to attack them later. Not to worry, we could always arrange something closer to T135 if we both want.

We noticed about the Care Bears' crazy expansion... that's certainly a bit of a worry. It must suck to have them as a neighbour, though at least maintenance should be hitting them rather hard right now (unless they have some really stellar territory). Let us know if there's some way we can help out - though given our distance I'm not sure we can do much right now.

Thanks for the congratulations on Stonehenge. It was not really "ultra-early" though - it's gone around 3000 BC (T25) in some games. You're correct that we founded Hinduism as well recently... if you're lacking a religion down the line then perhaps we could arrange to send a missionary your way.

Kind regards,
Orgynized

Are we going for the great library? It is great scientists included :D
Or are we doing oracle first?

The Great Library is still quite a few techs away yet, but it's definitely a good build when the time comes. We'll try for the Oracle (and maybe one or two other wonders) before we get to Literature.