Hashoosh gets into bed and Dhalphir sometimes watches from the closet (SPOILERS)

[Hashoosh]

Happy halloowwweeeeeeeeen

Spoooooooooooky stuff is going ooooonnnn

[Dhalphir]

Apparently we should be getting our start in the next day or so.

[Dhalphir]

Not much to talk about doot doo doo

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Apparently we should be getting our start in the next day or so.

You say stuff like that out loud and it takes 10 more days or breaks up the no hitter.

[Serdoa]

Your start:

[Hashoosh]

3 FPs and wet grassland wheat



My thoughts: SIP gives us 1 extra hammer from plains hill, plus 5 hills (4 grassland!) in the BFC and a nice grassland furs to boot.

SIP: Work the flood plains into a worker for 7 fhpt (5/2) for either 8 turns no overflow (if EXP) or 9 turns with 3 h overflow.

Borders pop eot5

The 1 will have to wait for our scout to make some moves, but if we wanted to get rid of one of the regular plains tiles, gaining:

4-5 grassland and some non-lighthouse (bleh) coast, sacrificing some more grass and a plains tile plus hills

Some strong civ choices from what we can see here:

Zulu (Hunting/Farming) + good UU great UB <-- Taken by Seven/Krill
Persia (Hunting/Farming) +great UU ok UB
Babylon (Wheel/Farming) +defense UU meh UB
Ottomans (Wheel/Farming) +late UU awesome UB
Russians (Hunting/Mining) +late UU irrelevant UB
Vikings (Fishing/Hunting) +water dependent UB/UU pairing. I say them because I can see water peeking at us from the south and west, implying we may be on an island/peninsula.
Khmer (Mining/Hunting) are elephants banned? this is a good UU if we're up against anyone with a cav UU for sure. The UB has a very nice +food

Thoughts?

My leader ranking for what we see:

Darius (FIN/ORG)
Elizabeth (FIN/PHI)
Suryarvayman (EXP/CRE)
Mansa (FIN/SPI)
Huayna (FIN/IND)
Bismarck (Exp/Ind)

Any of those six I'd be happy with, and since we're sixth...

Thoughts guys?

Edit: Thank you Serdoa for making the map! Much appreciated, and from what I can tell from reading other PBs, everyone has an insatiable lust for mapmaker blood? Anyways, thanks.

[Dhalphir]

I don't think we're going to get much chocie of Civ being 6th in the snake pick. I say we just revisit that choice when we get closer.

Whereas we are almost certainly going to pick up one of your six leaders, and I agree with that.

[Hashoosh]

Didn't realize Marble and Stone were removed from the map. That could give Huayna a huge edge. Or Bismarck

If it comes down to it, I'd like to have one of them over Darius, and I doubt Darius will slide down to 6th.

[Hashoosh]

So I did a quick sandbox with Asoka (blank leader) of Babylon. Worker->Warrior->Settler

Finished the settler eot 28

Worked 3/0/1 then 6/0/1 when worker finished farm.

Researched mining->bw->hunting->pottery

Sent worker to mine hill 1 sw of cap while researching bw. Finished mine, grew to size 3 with some hammers into a second warrior

Worked 6/0/1, 1/3/1, 3/0/1

Chopped PH

1-pop whipped settler t28

If we're not SPI we finish the settler a turn later (if anarchy) or 2 if we don't whip at all. Screen:

So I did a quick sandbox with Asoka (blank leader) of Babylon. Worker->Warrior->Settler



If we do this as Exp or Imp (Vicky might be nice...) then these times get cut down a little bit.

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My two cents:

For leaders I think we grab Darius or Huayna if they are available if not then I suggest taking Bismark since we have those tasty flood plains and river tiles to keep the finances going.

As for civ lets see what's available.

Finally I say SIP. I think it is a good idea to move if there is a fish placement issue that prevents sharing but that doesn't apply here. This is one area that I think getting too cute can cost you.

If you are on the east coast there is a solar eclipse tomorrow morning so if you are out walking your little one while you wife sleeps be sure to look at the sunrise.