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Yep, sorry again, I was kinda busy last week.
Not much time for PB14.

I did finish t94 in time.

Last worker moved to chop into CM. That chop will go into Market most likely, and we could 4pop whip it after if we want.

I'm afraid we had to consider go for construction next. Depends on Rome action. I wish we somehow get Monarchy/Calendar/Aesthetics/MC/CoL.
Hope fast market in CM and failed Moai will help a bit.

I'll chat with Sut about maybe Stone<->Silk deal?
Again, our land is so poor of happy resources compared to other teams.
Did you notice SutOxy has 2(two!) Gold resource?

Oh, and we get some land from India's city Cheer, riverside hamlet included.
Lets the culture war begin.

Pictures:

DMOC · November 25th, 2013, 20:54

I really don't think we should give stone to SutOxy. They are almost as strong as India. frown

Can you please tell me how you think of these two messages below (repeated for convenience)? I would really like to send them off now.

Quote:To Orgynized:

Quote:Team Orgynized,

We apologize for the delay in getting back to you. We would officially like to "purchase" one of your Hindu missionaries.

Our offer is that we can gift you a worker in exchange for a Hindu missionary and 40 gold. A worker costs 20 hammers more than a missionary, so we hope that the gold can help make up for the uneven hammer costs. To add incentives for you, once we get your religion, we'll be actively spreading it to the rest of our cities, so you can reap increased benefits from the shrine.

If you agree to this deal, we would like for you to spread Hinduism to the city of MIT by turn 105, and to send the 40 gold by then. On turn 105, we will gift you one of our workers who will enter Leia's culture borders. (Let us know if you'd like the worker on a specific tile, or even in another city.)

Let us know what you think.

Sincerely,
DMOC of Team EggHeads

Note: we would offer worker A who is working at Berkeley. We'd probably have him road another tile or two, perhaps cottage something, then gift to Orgynized in Leia. We could also ask for one earlier ...

To Asterix:

Quote:Asterix,

We apologize for the delay in getting back to you. We would like to officially offer our stone for your incense starting on turn 105 to turn 114 (including turn 114), for 10 turns. We can continue this deal beyond turn 114 if both parties agree.

Let us know what you think, as we have competing offers for our stone.

Sincerely,
DMOC of Team EggHeads

I think 11 turns gives us enough wiggle room to finish Moai (with one, possibly two whips + 1 chop) and have time for other cities to put fail gold hammers on it.

TeddyKGB · November 25th, 2013, 21:01

SutOxy was always stronger than us, even after HG.
Asterix is strong too.

I'm chatting with Sut now. He is agree Silk<>Stone for 10t starting t102.
Post full chat a bit later.

TeddyKGB · November 25th, 2013, 21:07

I would like Tao spread to us.
We have some chances.

What we gonna do with Hindu in MIT?
We have no OR, no Meditation yet.
How we gonna spread religion?

TeddyKGB · November 25th, 2013, 21:36

Chat log with Sut:

DMOC, you can send these msgs above.
I just dont think they could be agreed from the other sides, but maybe I'm wrong.

How about you talk with Asterix again and ask for happy resource for a good friend and ally?
Asterix is in a stronger position than us right now.

DMOC

(November 25th, 2013, 21:01)TeddyKGB Wrote: SutOxy was always stronger than us, even after HG.
Asterix is strong too.

I'm chatting with Sut now. He is agree Silk<>Stone for 10t starting t102.
Post full chat a bit later.

I agree. My point is that SutOxy are stronger than Asterix right now. Why do we want to agree to help out the stronger team?

(November 25th, 2013, 21:07)TeddyKGB Wrote: I would like Tao spread to us.
We have some chances.

What we gonna do with Hindu in MIT?
We have no OR, no Meditation yet.
How we gonna spread religion?

We will have Meditation and OR eventually (like, after Construction?). I do not like relying on random religion spreads. If we make the deal with them, then we have a guaranteed religion, and even if Taoism also spreads, then having both isn't too bad; it is better than no religion!

(November 25th, 2013, 21:36)TeddyKGB Wrote: Chat log with Sut:

ecpb14@gmail.com (05:35:52 26/11/2013)
hey kgb - just confirming, did you get my message?

LexIVn (05:36:11 26/11/2013)
hi, yep

ecpb14@gmail.com (05:36:17 26/11/2013)
cool

ecpb14@gmail.com (05:36:22 26/11/2013)
questions?

LexIVn (05:36:37 26/11/2013)
wanna trade silk for stone?

LexIVn (05:37:30 26/11/2013)
congrats on MoM and currency btw

ecpb14@gmail.com (05:38:11 26/11/2013)
sure - I think we have silk avail ~t102. Does that work for you? It would only be a 10T thing.

LexIVn (05:38:42 26/11/2013)
yep, t98 is too early for us anyway

LexIVn (05:39:02 26/11/2013)
i think we could work t102-t111

LexIVn (05:39:33 26/11/2013)
had to check tho

ecpb14@gmail.com (05:40:04 26/11/2013)
ok - I'll double check the due date for silk myself and write it down in an e-mail.

LexIVn (05:40:29 26/11/2013)
any news?

ecpb14@gmail.com (05:41:29 26/11/2013)
nope - diplo can be frustrating, so I'm stepping back a little

LexIVn (05:41:41 26/11/2013)
yep, same here

LexIVn (05:42:21 26/11/2013)
asterix got currency also

ecpb14@gmail.com (05:42:33 26/11/2013)
yes, Arki has it too

LexIVn (05:42:48 26/11/2013)
and Arki got it one turn faster with 286 gold stored

LexIVn (05:43:23 26/11/2013)
failed mids most likely

ecpb14@gmail.com (05:43:28 26/11/2013)
yup

LexIVn (05:44:07 26/11/2013)
india found another religion and its better spread

LexIVn (05:44:20 26/11/2013)
than state one

ecpb14@gmail.com (05:44:40 26/11/2013)
interesting - so they're the ones who got Judaism.

LexIVn (05:45:04 26/11/2013)
yup, they waited for OR to double revolt PS+OR

ecpb14@gmail.com (05:45:31 26/11/2013)
Oh wait, arki is being annoying - so I guess I do have info for you: our NAP with the Dutch ends t120

LexIVn (05:45:54 26/11/2013)
ok, our nap 125

LexIVn (05:47:38 26/11/2013)
i tho u and me has nap till t120 also
am i wrong?

LexIVn (05:47:49 26/11/2013)
to lazy to check

ecpb14@gmail.com (05:48:56 26/11/2013)
oh, I thought it was t100. haha - welcome to the lazy club. Do you want to do t120 or do you want to do the 10T cooldown thing?

LexIVn (05:49:22 26/11/2013)
i tho about some like t150

LexIVn (05:49:46 26/11/2013)
we should work together more, i think

ecpb14@gmail.com (05:50:04 26/11/2013)
sure - just didn't want to put any pressure on you. I'll add that to the stone agreement if you want.

LexIVn (05:50:07 26/11/2013)
u are stronger now, but we can be usefull

LexIVn (05:50:46 26/11/2013)
sure

ecpb14@gmail.com (05:51:56 26/11/2013)
I agree we should work together - LP quitting kind of mucked things up.

LexIVn (05:52:19 26/11/2013)
i suppose

LexIVn (05:52:50 26/11/2013)
u might have some deals with LP long term, but Arki kinda ruined it?

LexIVn (05:53:45 26/11/2013)
what about we chat before any of us prolong nap with Arki?

ecpb14@gmail.com (05:57:37 26/11/2013)
Haha - I just wrote a long paragraph and then deleted it I agree to chat with you before extending our nap with Arki.

LexIVn (05:58:38 26/11/2013)
what was that paragraph about?

ecpb14@gmail.com (06:00:06 26/11/2013)
Arki. I don't think he's a threat long term. An opportunity, maybe. But we can't lose track of the big picture. Can't get bogged down. That said, if he's just dicking around....

LexIVn (06:03:00 26/11/2013)
he's kinda playing fo fun, I guess
after LP quit and some dedlurker too
he might be a softer target than India or MM later

ecpb14@gmail.com (06:06:22 26/11/2013)
playing for fun is good. making it unfun for other people is not good. RE: later - that's my point, no good getting bogged down when tech levels are still relatively equal.

ecpb14@gmail.com (06:07:14 26/11/2013)
containment.

LexIVn (06:07:35 26/11/2013)
yep, i agree

LexIVn (06:07:56 26/11/2013)
anyways, we had to deal with rome first

ecpb14@gmail.com (06:08:57 26/11/2013)
yup - should be easy 3 on 1 though

LexIVn (06:09:05 26/11/2013)
another team who playing for fun

LexIVn (06:09:25 26/11/2013)
yep, kinda nice Yos send it to u

ecpb14@gmail.com (06:12:23 26/11/2013)
haha - seems pretty obvious that you 3 would work together. Its very good for you - I think Rome is more likely to go for a weaker neighbour like the Dinosaurs. If you can help them out, you will have a good ally.

LexIVn (06:13:07 26/11/2013)
well, i suppose there is no chance to make rome go for india, but we will try

ecpb14@gmail.com (06:13:40 26/11/2013)
Can you make India go for Rome?

LexIVn (06:13:48 26/11/2013)
i dont get it, why ignore diplo in full diplo game

LexIVn (06:13:59 26/11/2013)
dont think so

LexIVn (06:14:14 26/11/2013)
Yuufo is good

LexIVn (06:14:32 26/11/2013)
he knows how to win the game, imho

LexIVn (06:15:20 26/11/2013)
city with mids and oracle is closest to rome

LexIVn (06:16:31 26/11/2013)
closest from all indias cities
our 3 teams has closer plant

ecpb14@gmail.com (06:16:49 26/11/2013)
I agree - I don't think its playing for fun when the only goal is to ignore diplo and muck up someone else's game. You guys are doing the right thing by working together. Just track the stack, research construction, kill the stack and then kill Rome.

LexIVn (06:17:31 26/11/2013)
yep, u are lucky here with land and neighbours

ecpb14@gmail.com (06:17:37 26/11/2013)
Just make sure Yossadorn doesn't get too many spoils

LexIVn (06:17:57 26/11/2013)
how u get 2nd gold btw?

LexIVn (06:18:20 26/11/2013)
i was thinking its just 1 gold per team

ecpb14@gmail.com (06:18:25 26/11/2013)
luck

LexIVn (06:18:50 26/11/2013)
oh, working mine?

LexIVn (06:18:58 26/11/2013)
and gold appear?

ecpb14@gmail.com (06:19:01 26/11/2013)
yup

LexIVn (06:19:06 26/11/2013)
damn

ecpb14@gmail.com (06:19:18 26/11/2013)
went out and bought a lottery ticket after

ecpb14@gmail.com (06:19:23 26/11/2013)
still lost

LexIVn (06:19:25 26/11/2013)
heh

LexIVn (06:19:52 26/11/2013)
i guess our luck was run out after scout beat the bear early

ecpb14@gmail.com (06:20:19 26/11/2013)
hey - that's pretty lucky. sucks to lose scout early

LexIVn (06:20:49 26/11/2013)
say, how about trade spice for silk later after t111?

ecpb14@gmail.com (06:21:26 26/11/2013)
sure.

LexIVn (06:22:10 26/11/2013)
ok, ty
our land is really sux with happy resources
3 spice and one jungle dye

LexIVn (06:22:36 26/11/2013)
and no fur

ecpb14@gmail.com (06:23:03 26/11/2013)
3 silk and 1 sugar. It was jungled but we settled on top of it early. We have fur but no silver. I think Plako balanced it out.

LexIVn (06:23:37 26/11/2013)
silver should be on the south

LexIVn (06:23:55 26/11/2013)
seen lots of silver near rome and yos

ecpb14@gmail.com (06:24:44 26/11/2013)
yup, still have ~3 tiles to reveal, but I don't think we have any. c_h has some on his side of the land bridge. I have no idea what to do with that team. They're still fighting barbs with warriors.

LexIVn (06:25:00 26/11/2013)
india has fur silver wine dye, maybe something else, cant remember

ecpb14@gmail.com (06:25:11 26/11/2013)
I thought we all had wine?

LexIVn (06:25:25 26/11/2013)
no we hasnt

LexIVn (06:25:41 26/11/2013)
gold silver 3*spice and dye

LexIVn (06:25:46 26/11/2013)
for us

ecpb14@gmail.com (06:26:16 26/11/2013)
that sucks, blame the mapmaker!

LexIVn (06:26:21 26/11/2013)
indias wine in cap BFC

LexIVn (06:26:27 26/11/2013)
i did, lol

LexIVn (06:27:17 26/11/2013)
say, hows exploration of the coast?
find any way to land north?

ecpb14@gmail.com (06:28:25 26/11/2013)
Nope. I think no access north pre-astronomy.

ecpb14@gmail.com (06:31:13 26/11/2013)
I'll write everything we talked about: t150 NAP, silk for stone t102-t111, silk for spice t112-t150 down in an e-mail tomorrow.

LexIVn (06:31:32 26/11/2013)
ty

ecpb14@gmail.com (06:32:20 26/11/2013)
np - I'll let you know as soon as I get ahold of Arki. We'll follow your lead there.

LexIVn (06:32:43 26/11/2013)
ok
ty for talking
gl

ecpb14@gmail.com (06:32:47 26/11/2013)
thx

DMOC, you can send these msgs above.
I just dont think they could be agreed from the other sides, but maybe I'm wrong.

How about you talk with Asterix again and ask for happy resource for a good friend and ally?
Asterix is in a stronger position than us right now.

Why are we agreeing to trade stone and silk to SutOxy again?

As far as other deals go, I would like an NAP with them to turn 150. (Don't do one of these silly/dangerous continuous NAPs with 10-turn cool downs, please.)

I officially sent the message to Team Orgynized.

Now the question is, do we want to give stone to SutOxy or Asterix? Right now, unfortunately we seem to be closer to SutOxy right now. But Asterix wanted Stone as well, can we give the stone to him after? What do we want to do?

DMOC

Wait, I almost forgot … did we send the t95 message to Rome? We should do it since we promised. smile

DMOC · November 25th, 2013, 21:50

How about this as a revised plan?

Turns 102 - 111 (inclusive) we trade stone to SutOxy for silk
Turns 112 to 121 (inclusive) we trade stone to Asterix for Incense?

And an NAP to turn 150 with SutOxy?

TeddyKGB · November 25th, 2013, 22:01

I'm not sure Asterix interested in stone at all.
He said last time he prefer gpt, I dont chat with him, so maybe I'm wrong.
You may just ask Asterix if he interested in stone<>incense?

I didn't sent msg to Rome yet.

TeddyKGB · November 25th, 2013, 22:08

Quote:Why are we agreeing to trade stone and silk to SutOxy again?

We were just chatting. Final decision is yours.

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