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zakalwe · January 18th, 2014, 17:37

(January 18th, 2014, 17:08)Serdoa Wrote: Your description matches how I often play as village, at least as soon as I find someone I find worthy to get hunted. Can't really agree that that should suddenly be something that just scum is doing. And if it is not, if it is really only something that might be applied by scum or village, depending on the person playing, than you using it to put suspicion on catwalk makes you yourself suspicious.

I agree with this; Q does indeed have that play style as scum, which is impressive, but he shouldn't automatically assume that other scum play like that. I think it is quite widely agreed that in general, they don't. We don't know what Catwalk's scum style is, but I would expect him to have a much harder time building cases than usual, and I can't say that I've seen that here.

novice · January 18th, 2014, 17:49

(January 18th, 2014, 17:31)Qgqqqqq Wrote: I don't have time to catch up, but I'm happy with my vote for now.

I'm voting Catwalk, novice. Ol' Harry was a mistake, sorry.

Having looked up your posts to find out who you were voting, I'm not very happy with your vote (for Catwalk), and by extension mine (for Catwalk). Once again I find Azarius has managed to point out something significant amongst all the noise in the thread.

(January 17th, 2014, 23:54)Qgqqqqq Wrote:
(January 17th, 2014, 22:23)Azarius Wrote:
(January 17th, 2014, 21:22)Qgqqqqq Wrote: My problem was with the MJW vote and then dismissal, I didn't see anything particularly wrong with your posts (although I would definitely disagree that most posts have been fluff).

I'm leaning Catwalk currently, as a read-through of the first half of the thread makes him sound very odd to me. For example, his case on Old Harry is extremely grasping at straws, including as it does a criticism of Harry's opening joke post, and his interplay with Lewwyn is also rather odd. I don't think I've played a game with Catwalk before, however, so I'm hesitant to jump to conclusions, especially given how lynchable he looks. Another that I can't help but find scummy is Spacetyrantxenu, but I'm not sure why that is, possibly his meandering writing style is reading like scum fluff. I dunno sorry.
Q, you yourself were voting for Old Harry shortly after Catwalk did, you even cited his reason in your post. Why is his case now grasping at straws when you agreed with him before? (Which as Ichabod said is half of the game, especially so early in it imo.)

I didn't say there wasn't any merit to the case on Old Harry, my problem was in his grasping at straws in order to embellish it into a case. Old Harry's made a couple of weird posts, one of which caused me to vote him for a while, but the case that Catwalk made takes those as a foundation to a full-out case. On review it struck me as very much like what I often do as scum - choose a target who has made a few suspicious moves and then spin everything they've done against them, thus providing a lot of content and reads which help blend you in on a lynch. In particular, as I said above, the part about Old Harry's opening post, which is just ridiculously over-interpreted.

I really don't like how Q stuck to his Old Harry vote but then did a 180 and sided with the Catwalk voters once Ichabod's theory had caught on. I find his explanation unsatisfactory.

Qgqqqqq

MJW (ya that one) · January 18th, 2014, 17:57

Qgqqqq is voting catwalk

MJW (ya that one) · January 18th, 2014, 17:59

azza 4 vs catwalk 3

MJW (ya that one) · January 18th, 2014, 18:00

1 hour 'till time over

Old Harry · January 18th, 2014, 18:01

(January 18th, 2014, 17:08)Serdoa Wrote: I assume the bot can only talk in quotes - and most likely only full sentences or even whole posts except votes. Together with the information that his first post was done together with all of BRick other posts makes me believe that the bot was setup by BRick and given over to whoever is now in charge of it. Therefore the first vote for BRick, as a meaningless one that does simply introduce the bot and what it is to the game.

I'm nearly convinced, I'll move my vote again when an official tally confirms your view.

(January 18th, 2014, 17:11)Serdoa Wrote: Crossposted with you Gazglum. Guess I got lucky there, I would have to rewrite the last part of my post now

But I'm only allowed not to talk bad about players right? I can talk bad about BRick all I want?

Starting from midnight I think - so you have an hour to let rip! twirl

novice · January 18th, 2014, 18:03

There was a bug in the newest version of the Mafia Helper script where votes using named colors (e.g. color=red) weren't counted - that's why Q and Serdoa's votes weren't counted.
Download the fixed script

Correct tally as of post 254:

4 votes: Azza (Bobchillingworth, MJW (ya that one), Rowain, zakalwe)
3 votes: catwalk (Ichabod, Qgqqqqq, spacetyrantxenu)
2 votes: MJW (sunrise089, Azza)
2 votes: Zakalwe (Gazglum, Jowy)
2 votes: Bobchillingworth (Serdoa, Mattimeo)
2 votes: Old Harry (Catwalk, Lewwyn)
1 votes: sunrise089 (Merovech)
1 votes: [Unvote] (Ryan)
1 votes: Azarius (Imana-665-C)
1 votes: Gazglum (Azarius)
1 votes: Qgqqqqq (novice)
1 votes: Imana-665-C (Old Harry)

Voting history:

MJW (ya that one) · January 18th, 2014, 18:07

If I don't see anything big my vote will stay on azza because he is trying to kill me.

(January 18th, 2014, 16:04)Old Harry Wrote:
(January 18th, 2014, 13:41)MJW (ya that one) Wrote: Guys, do you think it's plausible that azza doesn't know what I'm talking about? If it's true his play is not that wolfish... But I don't think it is.

MJW, in post 41 you were annoyed noone had thought wolfs don't win on ties but there aren't any ties because of the team leader, which you seemed fully aware of. Is that a contradiction or have I just understood you wrong?

I didn't mean ties. I meant the wolfs don't win a 1 vs 1 showdown at the end of the game which really unfair to them. I thought Brick messed up.

The robot has to be brick or someone who controls it. It cannot be anyone else outside the game because the candidate who the robot would have to be for (Gaspar) has posted in the lurker thread (checked via whose posted).

Old Harry · January 18th, 2014, 18:15

Except if the team leader is a wolf, then they win the 1 vs 1. There's only about a 1/4 chance that Matt is a wolf, but they can keep killing the team leader until they get their man/beast into power.

MJW (ya that one) · January 18th, 2014, 18:15

I don't like Sunrise saying that he wants to switch off of me and not doing so. I don't think he'll make deadline.

Mr. zakalwe why did you vote "no lynch" so late? There's no way it would work with so little time left. So you doing it just distracts the village.

Poll: How surprised are you to see a poll up again? You do not have permission to vote in this poll.
Not very.	15.38%	2	15.38%
Exceedingly!	15.38%	2	15.38%
You're a damn commie trying to sabotage the thread again aren't you?	69.23%	9	69.23%
Total		13 vote(s)	100%

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