WW 31 Game Thread PARANOIA

[Jowy]

Hey Jowy, it's my second Day around the game. Guess what? I see how other people play and I'm picking up on it. Also, I spent some time reading mafiawiki late last night, and that helped too. Who knew, I can learn!)

Oh, I know all about that Complete mess my very first day, near perfect reads the second, going in completely blind like you
This case was about pretending. I think I believe you now. If you end up being scum, that was a very impressive frustrated villager post!

Serdoa

[spacetyrantxenu]

Is there a name for everything? Frustrated villager post.

Anyone with mafia helper, what's the current count? If I'm not the leading the lynch vote I'll change to Serdoa.

[Mattimeo]

Gah, early game has too many posts and not enough proper info to run on. Someone yell when I'll be waking up to a page, maybe two, of posts, rather than five

Lewwyn: WW25 Vampire. Seriously. Same "I'm totally a doctor who can accidentally kill people sometimes". Despite claiming to (and apparently having dropped hints to) be a vig initially.
Ryan: Detect *ability* to kill. Unable to play for shit, though.
Unfortunately, bad idea to lynch either, as they appear close enough to death overnight as-is.

Bot appears to have ditched alphabetical order, and similarly appears to have accepted a different trigger phrase, from a different person.
Looking increasingly likely to be a controlled second vote. Which would limit it to: Bobchillingworth, MJW (ya that one), Rowain, zakalwe, Lewwyn; an inability to target the same person as your primary vote; or an idiot who needs to be lynched as soon as we find out they've been splitting their vote.

Trying to actually look at things made post too long in both time and height. Continually getting distracted doesn't help either. More random musings and maybe some actual analysis leading to a vote coming soon. Stuff is going to be everywhere though :/

[spacetyrantxenu]

Looking increasingly likely to be a controlled second vote.

What does that mean, like someone is steering the vote? Which in your view would be at the behest of one of Bob, Rowain, or Zak?

[Ichabod]

THE STUPENDOUS INTELLECT IS BACK!! We will tackle this mistery easily enough, you guys can't stop worrying. I'm sure I already pegged who's who in this game. I'm fairly certain that our leader is actually Mattimeo, while our equipment guy is, surprisingly enough (I know), Serdoa.

...

Ah, but we are actually looking for commies... Ok, I think I get it now...

I could use some happyizing, I had some sad times these past few days.

I'm sorry you've had a tough few days Ichabod. I hope this helps in a small way:

happyize:[Ichabod]



Remember Morte, 'keep your face always toward the sunshine - and shadows will fall behind you'!

That's exactly what I needed, thanks!

I've skimmed through. In case Serdoa is still around, I want to ask him what's up with the new, mellow, humble Serdoa. And I'm not just talking about the smileys.

Well Serdoa, you did say zak was allowed to question this when I wasn't .

This post makes me feel that Azarius is intentionally trying to annoy Serdoa. That's a bad thing to do in itself (we should all be friends ), but it also feels scummy to me, because it makes a forced (not sure if this word means the same in english as it means in portuguese, but I'll try) interpretation to pass what Serdoa's said as a elitist comment of some sort, which it was not.

Azarius goes up in the scum list due to that. When the only thing I remember about someone's play is the person trying to aggravate another person, I know that there's something wrong (besides the fact that my brain isn't working properly ). It points to scum!!

Sunrise, I have limits. For example when uberfish failed to post the villager role-pm in the alien werewolf game I did not exploit it. People who I would okay with killing:

Lewwyn: He left breadcrumbs that he was a vig. He claimed vig. Then he claimed doctor and claimed up. He lied and that's bad enough to bring him up on the list. That said his support of me and people I like makes it hard for me to vote him.

Qgqqqqq: Killing him will give a lot of information. So if I did'nt have a wolf read on anyone he would be number 1. He's playing a bit defensively and keeping his options open to; which is a bit wolfish.

Novice: I don't like his reaction to that incident and him not wanting to kill azza and instead pushing Qgqqqq is really bad if Qgqqqq is not a wolf. He's not aligning with Zak at all which is very suspicious because they tend to line up if they are on the same team and I have a town read on Zak.

Old Harry: Not doing anything useful and that post right before deadline is really bad.

I don't think the town has what it takes to take out lewwyn today anyway and old harry is under plenty of pressure already. I don't think I have what it takes to take out Qgqqqq by myself so I'll just dump my vote on Novice for more pressure.

Awesome post, congrats comrade! Oops, or should I say, congrats, mate! Sorry about that! The comment about Novice is spot on and I'm totally willing to vote for Novice today, I just don't do it right now because I don't want to jump the OldHarry boat that's finally on the water - people will say that I'm running away from a villager lynch, right? I don't want to be accused of not trying to lynch an innocent! I think novice is sad that he rolled communist, because he prefers to play as a capitalist. So we should happyize him by lynching him.

I also think (my powerful brain is full of great ideas ) that Serdoa has something different, but I don't feel it's because he went red. It's another thing, but I don't need to find out what it is - I think he's good . I think ChillingBob is playing too chilling and that makes me really, really worried; like he already thinks he won for his evil team. He seems too reasonable, centered and distant - qualities that we never find in proper villagers, who are always crazy or on the brink of madness (I love this game ).

So, here's the wolf list:

*ChillingBob - too-good-to-not-be-a-wolf
*Novice - wolf yearning for retirement
*OldHarry - S.S. Wolf has sailed...
*Azarius - Grimm brother's wolf

Case closed!

(When I was in high school, my teacher told me I should become a judge - I'd be an amazing judge )

[Mattimeo]

Something I just noticed...

Ryan will be investigated by Old Harry tonight.

So uh... Old Harry, is there a reason why you've never come out and stated if Ryan actually did something last night? Given that, well, you know, and all that. I mean, if he didn't do anything then he's well and truly caught in a quite harmful lie; I'd've at least thought you'd come out to reassure us that's not the case, if it wasn't...

mostly unrelated, but had it in an open tab:

How about this:

I still find Sunrise suspicious for the reasons I mentioned earlier, though not nearly as much as the following people, who have shot up in scumminess: Q, , Catwalk, and Ryan.

Bold is mine. But notice the extra comma? Like he edited out a suspect from his list?

Mero who was it?

God(s) damn it Lewwyn, stop coming up with good points when I want to lynch you for vampirism >

[MJW (ya that one)]

If it comes down to xenu and old harry I'm voting old harry. That post right before deadline is just too juicy to over look and novice pushed xenu in the first place. (Meroviech voted first but didn't gain traction).

[MJW (ya that one)]

Oh, the bot is not under anyone's control or it's being used as some sort of gambit as it's not being used as a doublevote. We should test if everyone can vote on the same side as the robot tomorrow by selecting someone for everyone to vote for. If someone cannot vote for the same target that means he has a relationship with the robot. We could even cast placeholder votes in green. I don't think we have enough time to do this now...

I'll express my anger at Ichabod for using the word "Comrade" my voting for him.

Ichabod
novice

[Mattimeo]

Looking increasingly likely to be a controlled second vote.

What does that mean, like someone is steering the vote? Which in your view would be at the behest of one of Bob, Rowain, or Zak?

Occam's would suggest the bot is likely a method of delivering a second vote held by a player.
And the wisdom (or [b]complete[b] lack thereof) of not stacking a second vote on the same target as your first (when town) has been extensively discussed in (recent-ish) previous games. Hence, it was cast by someone already on Azza, and two of them have already claimed abilities other than a second vote.

...on the other hand, the bot did spend a day commenting that it didn't like parrots, and then parroted a parrot to 'justify' its vote today, so :/

[Old Harry]

Something I just noticed...

Ryan will be investigated by Old Harry tonight.

So uh... Old Harry, is there a reason why you've never come out and stated if Ryan actually did something last night? Given that, well, you know, and all that. I mean, if he didn't do anything then he's well and truly caught in a quite harmful lie; I'd've at least thought you'd come out to reassure us that's not the case, if it wasn't...

Brick told us all:

Ryan has been killed. He is down to 1 clone.
Lewwyn has been killed. He is down to 1 clone.

Happiness Officer: Happized Serdoa.
[b]Loyalty Officer investigate result: positive.
Equipment Guy:
1) DocBot in a Box
2) Tactical Smartphone
3) Vari-Grenade

Hygiene Officer and Communications Officer did not execute their abilities in time for end of day, so today's punishment is that their rank shall be stripped and given to another.
New Hygiene Officer: Bobchillingworth
New Communications Officer: spacetyrantxenu
[/b]

I hadn't realised it was such a crappy power

mostly unrelated, but had it in an open tab:

How about this:

I still find Sunrise suspicious for the reasons I mentioned earlier, though not nearly as much as the following people, who have shot up in scumminess: Q, , Catwalk, and Ryan.

Bold is mine. But notice the extra comma? Like he edited out a suspect from his list?

Mero who was it?

God(s) damn it Lewwyn, stop coming up with good points when I want to lynch you for vampirism >

He said Serdoa in post 550