WW 31 Game Thread PARANOIA

[zakalwe]

No deaths for Zakalwe, Rowain, Bob or Lewwyn? My spidey-senses are tingling...

This statement made my spidey-senses tingle. You spent all yesterday arguing that we need to lynch a Q voter, and now that we have mislynched one of them, you turn around and say we need to lynch an Azza voter. You're playing both ends. And that kind of reasoning is too simplistic anyway, as Serdoa has been arguing. In addition, the night results strongly point towards multiple factions, which complicates the picture even more. So when you persist in using the Azza and Q wagons as the focus of all your analysis, it makes me question if you are reasoning honestly.

Similarly, I'm still wondering why Lewwyn keeps assuming that it's just commies vs. town.

[Bobchillingworth]

As I was about to say, Ryan, you should wait until your target is on-line, confront him, and immediately demand a full claim.

You probably should have waited longer, though.

Let's hear a full claim Bobchillingworth.

He doesn't know I'm online, I use hidden mode and only mods like you & I can see invisible people :P


I am a vig, although my formal title isn't as such. I haven't shot anyone yet though- I certainly wasn't going to Night 1 after I told everyone to hold their fire. And I didn't have anyone I was sure was scum for Night 2, so I held my fire then as well- I don't have unlimited shots and I didn't want to wing a villager. I'm guessing Night 2 was the result of a scum shot + second scum or 3rd-party shot + another vig- and we probably have a quite a few players who can wound. We did in the game Zak ran with a wounding system as well, and that game had wolves who could actually eliminate people at night.



Of course, that's all exactly what a commie or SK would say, so

[Jowy]

Q you were my first target before I changed to someone else. Just wanted to see how you would react. I checked Bob and he was positive. He has either a faction or mutant ability. That can kill someone.

Good job Ryan The way you put it sounds like you only get to know whether someone can kill or not, which means your result doesn't really conflict with Lewwyn's role reveal. I'm still suspicious about the things he refuses to explain, but he's at least back to neutral in my books.

I believe Lewwyn when he says he didn't do anything last night. It was also the correct move for both town and scum Lewwyn. Town I've already explained yesterday, and for scum it is because he'd very likely be watched.

Interesting result! Not only is Bob able to kill, but he really wanted Lewwyn to roam free last night. Notice how neither Lewwyn or Ryan were hit? What if Bob is scum and wanted Lewwyn to go free so that Lewwyn can kill off either himself or Ryan when trying to protect them. Lewwyn did publicly act like that's exactly what he'd do.

Rowain did you protect Lewwyn or Ryan with the item (or is it a heal instead?)? If you did protect one of them, then that'd mean the scum might have tried to hit Ryan or Lewwyn but failed. But that also means there are a shit ton of night killers, who can't all be scum. Two scum night kills seems the most likely imo.

[zakalwe]

Bob, I was thinking he would wait until his target had posted recently, which you had, so the timing was right in that sense. A bit early in the day, perhaps, but at least we now get ample time to interrogate you.

I also expected a lot of killing abilities with the clone system that we have, and if Ryan is legit, i.e. a town player with the ability to detect killers, it also makes sense that there would be some "false positives" for him out there.

It would be quite a coincidence if both you and Lewwyn are false positives, though.

[MJW (ya that one)]

If bob is scum: scum probably have multiple ways of killing other than fractional ability. But can only use one per day.

What do bob and lewwyn think of eachother?

[zakalwe]

What if Bob is scum and wanted Lewwyn to go free so that Lewwyn can kill off either himself or Ryan when trying to protect them. Lewwyn did publicly act like that's exactly what he'd do.

Maybe I just need more coffee, but I'm not quite following this.

[zakalwe]

What do you mean by Lewwyn "killing off himself"?

[MJW (ya that one)]

What if Bob is scum and wanted Lewwyn to go free so that Lewwyn can kill off either himself or Ryan when trying to protect them. Lewwyn did publicly act like that's exactly what he'd do.

Maybe I just need more coffee, but I'm not quite following this.

Jowy thinks Bob let lewwyn act (by not killing him). Hoping that lewwyn would target ryan and kill him.

[MJW (ya that one)]

What do you mean by Lewwyn "killing off himself"?

He think lewwyn's ability cause result in him dying if it goes though.

[zakalwe]

I get that Lewwyn might target Ryan to protect him and instead kill him (if he's telling the truth). I don't see how Lewwyn could be killing off himself, though. Maybe I'm just not parsing the sentence correctly.