WW 31 Game Thread PARANOIA

[Jowy]

Unvote until I understand what's actually going on

[novice]

I see a possibility MJW, if I'm right about your role. Look at the wolf-PM and compare it to your own. That might give you a hint. Sorry for being so vague.

Serdoa, I meant to ask you earlier why you didn't point this out sooner. I guess the question's moot.

MJW, Rowain said we shouldn't lynch Serdoa until D6. That's not something you say without having info from a role.

[Ichabod]

My ability is polymorphism. Whenever a night ability is USED against me I gain that ability. Someone watched me on the first night. I watched Lewwyn this night and saw Serdoa and two other players visit him. I also have the ability to kill now from my clone dying. I assumed lewwyn lied about his night actions after Serdoa said he saw someone move and was sure lewwyn was a wolf. So I voted for lewwyn right away after never talking about him.

We should obviously kill Serdoa first so we get access to lewwyn's role before killing one of the "vigs".

I also have to point out why I thought a villager shot me. I thought I could not copy the wolfs ability to kill because that is a fractional ability so I would also be able to copy the wolfs ability to use the wolf quicktopic. But the quicktopic was not used against me. I thought I would gain the abilities of whoever night-visited me for some strange reason...

You are one crazy man, MJW.

So, Serdoa lied? He actually visited Lewwyn, not Gazglum, is that it? I guess we have no other choice.

Serdoa

Wait, where is Serdoa's claim of following multiple people?

[Ichabod]

...........

I feel like there's a conspiracy happening in this game. Too much people seem to know too much info while I don't know anything at all. It's almost as there is some people that can communicate out of this thread, in a place where only they can see...

And I'm not talking about communists... I think there are villagers that now too much!!!1 And they don't want to share!

[MJW (ya that one)]

My ability is polymorphism. Whenever a night ability is USED against me I gain that ability. Someone watched me on the first night. I watched Lewwyn this night and saw Serdoa and two other players visit him. I also have the ability to kill now from my clone dying. I assumed lewwyn lied about his night actions after Serdoa said he saw someone move and was sure lewwyn was a wolf. So I voted for lewwyn right away after never talking about him.

We should obviously kill Serdoa first so we get access to lewwyn's role before killing one of the "vigs".

I also have to point out why I thought a villager shot me. I thought I could not copy the wolfs ability to kill because that is a fractional ability so I would also be able to copy the wolfs ability to use the wolf quicktopic. But the quicktopic was not used against me. I thought I would gain the abilities of whoever night-visited me for some strange reason...

You are one crazy man, MJW.

So, Serdoa lied? He actually visited Lewwyn, not Gazglum, is that it? I guess we have no other choice.

Serdoa

Wait, where is Serdoa's claim of following multiple people?

The closest thing I found so far is when Serdoa said "I've been tracking people" when I asked him what he did last night. I assumed it was a grammar error from a non-native English speaker. So I asked "Did the person who you tracked move?" and he said yes.

[Rowain]

There are somethings which don't fit

a) scum victory: "You win when the communists obtain a majority or nothing can prevent this from happening."
doesn't go well with multiple factions. The mass of vigpowers (so far Bob, Gaz, Lewwyn ) don't go well with that either. So IMO we have 1 scum and maybe a sk (who counts as village for scumvictory condition)

b) MJW now claims he has watched Lewwyn and 3(!) visiting him. That's a bit strange.

c) Lewwyns role: My first guess was that Lewwyn is a paranoid (his role not he himself). That Ryan got hurt because he visited him.

d) Gazglums claim of hitting Old Harry. Why was the later not hit? Someone protecting OH sounds rather unlikely.

e) Why I believe that Serdoa is village:

-1) The items he has handed out so far where both protective/healing items. You would not give them to villagers as scum.
-2) Our interaction.

f) I'm sure Serdoa tracked Gazglum. Read Serdoas first posts and you know that is right. Gaz picked up on that and confessed.

[Ichabod]

My ability is polymorphism. Whenever a night ability is USED against me I gain that ability. Someone watched me on the first night. I watched Lewwyn this night and saw Serdoa and two other players visit him. I also have the ability to kill now from my clone dying. I assumed lewwyn lied about his night actions after Serdoa said he saw someone move and was sure lewwyn was a wolf. So I voted for lewwyn right away after never talking about him.

We should obviously kill Serdoa first so we get access to lewwyn's role before killing one of the "vigs".

I also have to point out why I thought a villager shot me. I thought I could not copy the wolfs ability to kill because that is a fractional ability so I would also be able to copy the wolfs ability to use the wolf quicktopic. But the quicktopic was not used against me. I thought I would gain the abilities of whoever night-visited me for some strange reason...

You are one crazy man, MJW.

So, Serdoa lied? He actually visited Lewwyn, not Gazglum, is that it? I guess we have no other choice.

Serdoa

Wait, where is Serdoa's claim of following multiple people?

The closest thing I found so far is when Serdoa said "I've been tracking people" when I asked him what he did last night. I assumed it was a grammar error from a non-native English speaker. So I asked "Did the person who you tracked move?" and he said yes.

I read the "tracking people" as a figure of speech. That's why, while rereading just now, I was surprised that mattimeo jumped on it and now I'm surprised that Ryan also reinforced this claim (like if the plural really mattered). Coupled with Rowain asking us not to lynch Serdoa... It's like some people know more about the game than I do. Maybe Mattimeo is a multiple-people-per-night-watcher, while Serdoa is the multiple-people-per-night-tracker.

[Mattimeo]

I was surprised that mattimeo jumped on it

Serdoa claimed to have tracked Gaz
MJW claimed Serdoa had visited Lewwyn, and used this to make a case against Serdoa, which several people joined.
I had reason to believe Serdoa had two shots available last night, and so wished to head off what I saw as a case built on false premises - namely, that Serdoa was lying about tracking Gazglum, since he had clearly tracked Lewwyn.

Then I felt I had to justify my belief that Serdoa had two shots last night, hence the rest of the implications in my post.

[Serdoa]

Yes, I had two shots yesterday. The same as Lewwyn would have had today. You remember that Old Harry redirected Q onto me on N1, yes? That's were I guessed that came from. I didn't however want to reveal it because Lewwyn has left the game and so Qs-role didn't need to be revealed. And Lewwyn didn't lie btw, he didn't do anything (or at least visited no one).

Further: Mattimeo, what you pointed out in the morning (mine, anyway) was my bad use of English, not a try by me to claim that I followed multiple people. I just said "Tracking people." because that's how I would answer the question "What have you done?", oh, you know, work, eat, tracking people.

Ok, and now I read the posts that followed MJWs claim, because I skipped them mostly.

[Mattimeo]

Gazglum did seem rather insistent about getting his story out (after having time to construct it) before Serdoa pointed out that Gazglum had visited someone who ended up dead. And while I can definitely pay him being paranoid about being tracked (seriously, the amount of crackpot plans he comes up with under even the slightest, most oblique suspicion...), that managed to come across as *knowing* about the tracking, rather than just suspecting and being paranoid.