WW 31 Game Thread PARANOIA

[Mattimeo]

Of those 3 I would rather lynch Gaz simple because he has to kill.
But him claiming this freely makes me lean town. OTOH he claim to have targeted OH during the first night and that together with his attack on Serdoa makes me lean scum.

Gazglum is way more paranoid as scum than as town. To the extent where "Serdoa is vaguely hinting at having found something while tracking last night -> he obviously saw *me*, what do I do what do I do what do I do" is an entirely expected train of thought.
I wouldn't be giving him a town read (or any read, really) for the claim. I can definitely see him doing it as town, but it's just as likely to be scum-glum behind those particular thought processes.

[MJW (ya that one)]

I'll probably vote novice if you or gazglum aren't under the gun today at lynch.

[MJW (ya that one)]

You = Catwalk (crosspost)

Lewwyn is probably town as he's still number two in post count. As Gaspar likes to point out wolfs tend to stay in the middle of the pack in posts.

[novice]

I'm convinced that at least one of Gazglum and Bob is a serial killer, and I think Gazglum is the more likely candidate. He's also a better communist candidate than Bob by virtue of votes. Maybe they're both serial killers, if BRick decided to be exceedingly twisted. Even so, I'd still prefer pursuing communists than serial killers. Rowain is clamming up completely about his comments on Serdoa, and noone other than novice seems to find that suspicious. And I still think novice is scum, so I'm not in the best company with that theory. Other favourite suspects are the lurkers: Azarius, spacetyrantxenu and Mattimeo. We've had a newbie scum faction before which had a terrible first day, we could well be seeing that here as well. If novice is part of that faction, it could help explain what seems (IMO) to be lack of passion in this one.

Catwalk, off the top of my head both Ichabod and Jowy have agreed that Rowain's behavior is suspicious. I don't like how you use the supposed lack of support as justification for easing off Rowain. You also say you're convinced at least one of Gaz and Bob is scum and still you vote outside those two. At least remind me why you think I'm scum. Lack of passion? I thought we agreed that we could all do with being more dispassionate about the game.

[Jowy]

Okay I don't think Rowain will crack. We'll have to get to it once the more suspicious players are gone or become more towny.
Back to Bobchillingworth for the same reasons as before.
Btw Bob was pretty quick to scrub himself! D2 he was really adamant about discussing it through with the team before using it. And yesterday there was only one non-random target, today we have at least two in Bob and Gazglum. We could have wanted to use it on Gazglum instead, but he denied that option from us. I think not only does it go against what Bob was doing and saying yesterday, but he's also fighting for his survival rather than trying to catch scum. Someone already mentioned that his general behavior also reflects this change in mind. While I don't find self-defense itself suspicious, I do find the change in his way to play the game suspicious.

Novice wouldn't be the worst lynch. I agree with him, but we could be agreeing for different reasons. That said, while I find him scummy, his actions today would be very weak scum play if he is scum. He could have just kept lurking and survived another few days without any trouble since we've got so much going on and so many suspicious players. Would the little that he'd gain as scum from knowing Rowain's secret or whether he even had anything really be worth his life? Btw I'm also not that happy about several people getting a free pass just lurking, but at the same time I can't really think of a way we could remedy that. It'd be mistake not to lynch the most scummy players just for the sake of it, and any pressure we put on lurkers would be artificial at best. If you're town and you recognize yourself being a lurker this game, try your best to be more active so that we have a read on everyone and don't have to start flipping coins at LyLo.

[novice]

Is the scrubbing order locked in?

[Jowy]

Is the scrubbing order locked in?

I'll vote Gazglum if you roleblock yourself bob.

Why would you rather die bob? If you get more clear without spoiling your role that's okay. Just say so. I would guess that your ability allows you to transcend a certain important game rule if your village, though.

Clean:[Bobchillingworth]


Done.

Why would you rather die bob

I don't think I can answer this any more or better than I already have, sorry.

[Catwalk]

I gave a clear reason why I don't think going after serial killer suspects is a good idea at this time. They're out in the open, and they're as much of a threat to the communists as to town. I can't see Bob being a communist, and I think Gazglum is more likely to be a serial killer than a communist. I don't mind pushing Rowain some more, but it feels like banging my head against a wall. I also don't think he's a communist (as I said earlier), I think he's 3rd party somehow. It feels highly likely that there's more than one player that isn't town or communist, unless I'm misreading Rowain completely and he really just did feel like telling us all strenuously that we should trust his instincts.

I suspect you partly on grounds of your Azza vote, and partly because of the theory that we have newbie communists being guided by a disgruntled veteran. Maybe I'm reading too much into that, but it seems to fit quite well. What is your theory on Rowain and Serdoa?

[novice]

Surely it can be changed though. Maybe we should have Bob scrub Gazglum and then lynch Bob anyway.

[novice]

Catwalk, lynching the serial killer eliminates a night kill though. Lynching a communist does not.

My theory on Rowain is that he's lying.