WW 31 Game Thread PARANOIA

[Ichabod]

Ah, and Qgq vote on Sunrise felt bandwagonny... Though it fits with his Sunrise watch...

Can we get an updated spreadsheet of the night powers? Who Sunrise visited on the last days, I only remember him visiting me, Zak and Novice.

[Qgqqqqq]

I get to know what ability was used.

I don't think that was a preemptive defence at all, I had novice stating that he thought my play yesterday was scummy and I was answering each of his points.

Okay I suppose they may have preferred Space dead, on the off chance one of them had lied. My point is the scum itself want to take a strong stance against whoever ends up being lynched, so they can campaign the next day.

I really don't like how novice has just backed off and let other people accuse me, not even responding to my response to him.

[Serdoa]

I don't like how 3 players haven't voted at all. Especially sunrise has done that the past days as well, waiting where the votes fall.

@Ichabod

I tracked Jowy, what was negative.

Also I would can give you in approx. 40 mins an updated night-spreadsheet, though for example sunrise is missing as he didn't tell us with whom he was in contact.

[novice]

My kids kept me up last night and I have a presentation to prepare for tomorrow, so in brief:

Qgqqqq, Serdoa summarizes my suspicion of you pretty well in this post.

Maybe I've missed it, but I don't see you using your results for anything, really. You're not interrogating the people you've watched, and you didn't even share the results of your actions during the Catwalk-Xenu showdown even though you had targetted both IIUC. It just seems like relevant information to share. Then once the results are no longer relevant you claim results that anybody without your claimed ability could know were correct. So I don't know if you have your ability or not or what's going on, but something doesn't add up.

[novice]

Qgqqqq, Serdoa summarizes my suspicion of you pretty well in this post.

Except I do doubt your ability is real. Your claim could be an attempt to explain an ominous ability name in the most innocuous way possible, while also keeping the role weird enough that you don't risk a counterclaim.

[Serdoa]

I agree with novice actually, after having put in the night-actions that I could quickly find. You stated you watched on N5 novice to see if catwalk or xenu visited him. The same question as with Merovech on N6 is actually to be asked here, as also here I'm wondering why neither of Rowain nor Merovech.

In your favour, Merovech obviously didn't protect Rowain on that night either, so it is indeed so that talking in hindsight about what you should have done is obviously much easier than when you actually have to decide.

All that out of the way, I still trust Mattimeo the least. You claim that you used the Anti-Mutant Lotion to protect yourself on N5 but I can tell you 4 reasons why that doesn't seem a very smart play (and you ARE smart Mattimeo, you may not post much in these games, but you are definitely smart):

- Merovech
- Rowain
- novice
- Serdoa

4 players that all had a much higher chance to get nightkilled. I don't really see how on N5 you thought you would need protection.

Also I don't like your defeatist attitude. I remember very well Tasunkes role-madness game (or however you'd like to call that) and you definitely did not give up easily. Again, I know you don't post much, but you are not simply turn and die just because I call you out on your ability not being used.

[Serdoa]

Night-Actions Overview Chart:

[spacetyrantxenu]

Busy day at work, just reading so far. I'll my previous request for Mattimeo to contribute meaningfully to the discussion has largely been ignored, so my suspicion of him is growing. More or less the same goes for Ichabod, but he at least explained his ennui a bit and whether I'm a fool or not, I sort of believe him, at least enough that he isn't the guy to lynch today. Similarly, Sunrise's (in)activity level doesn't scream to me to lynch him either, as we're getting down to the wire and we need a good candidate and we HAVE to avoid another mislynch. If I'm going to get the vote wrong I'd prefer it be based on voting on something I'm seeing rather than something I'm not seeing (and therefore simply guessing at).

So I'm going on record for Qgqqqqq now. Do I wish I was more sure? Yeah, I do. But he's reading as scum for the way (I believe) he has misplayed his role. Like he deliberately sabotaged trying to help the village track people. And while I don't necessarily agree with novice's suspicion that Q is faking his role, I think he's just not using it to help the village like he should have. And if it's just been a case of him doing bad target guessing or having bad luck and he's actually innocent...1. that's bad luck for us all, and 2., his other actions (failing to reveal potentially useful information) did not help him look less scummy and avoid being in a mislynch situation. I hope he's scum and we're not walking up to the precipice of a town loss with a mislynch here, but Q has kind of put himself in the spotlight today more so than anyone else, and the spotlight is casting an ill appearance over him.

Preview edit: cross post with Serdoa

[Jowy]

I also never received any word from Brick about being double charged.
Mattimeo

[spacetyrantxenu]

Thanks for the updated chart, Serdoa.

Looking at it, I'm sort of bemused by Catwalk...I think if he had survived the lynch yesterday and I had gone, this game would have been at risk of being over as soon as Catwalk was killed off, whenever that happened. Depending on who he had set up the bomb (for great justice or otherwise), it could have been that he would have killed enough village to give scum a win if he died. Or maybe that would have triggered the end automatically, once scum had a majority remaining over village+catwalk? (since they'd obviously not vote themselves to hang). That was a close one!