Adventure 60: Civ of Duty: Modern Warfare - CLOSING DAY

[TheSunIsDark]

Seems interesting, I'll try to do it as my first Adventure.

[Old Harry]

Hashoosh just pointed out that I left production automation on in Gordium - its the button underneath the slavery button - apologies if it's kept switching your careful plans around .

[TheSunIsDark]

I'm guessing, as this isn't a Gentle Adventure, that the others might have better starting situations... might confirm the comment about Modern Armors.

[Cornflakes]

I'll take a stab at this.

[Cornflakes]

Question: May reports be posted in the relevant forum before closing day? This is only my second adventure, and I think I completed my first adventure within a day or so of closing.

[Old Harry]

Question: May reports be posted in the relevant forum before closing day? This is only my second adventure, and I think I completed my first adventure within a day or so of closing.

You need to post it on Monday June 2nd or Tuesday June 3rd, so no-one is tempted to get spoiler info. Thanks for playing!

Closing Day: Monday, June 2, 2014. Reports due by the end of Tuesday June 3, your local time.

[Cheater Hater]

Question: May reports be posted in the relevant forum before closing day? This is only my second adventure, and I think I completed my first adventure within a day or so of closing.

You need to post it on Monday June 2nd or Tuesday June 3rd, so no-one is tempted to get spoiler info. Thanks for playing!

Serious question: why? Why do we treat Adventures so differently than we treat our MP games? Sure, there's some joy in reading all the reports on report day, but ignoring Adventure 59 (which also had the biggest breach of the "absolutely no spoilers" protocol I've seen), there haven't been that many reports at all recently. Heck, in MP, the spoilers would be a lot more damaging, since you're actually getting other people's thoughts, as opposed to just map info (which admittedly would be a bigger problem in a modern-era game such as this).

[Sullla]

Epics and Adventures are Single Player games. Our standard format is to announce the opening of an event, allow roughly 4-6 weeks for the game to take place, and then hold a report day where everyone shares their results. We ask everyone not to post reports ahead of time to avoid sharing of spoiler information. (This was designed in contrast to the CivFanatics Game of the Month competition, where players frequently used spoiler information posted by other players.) Again, these are Single Player games against the AI - they are not designed to be collaborative ventures. We've traditionally used Succession Games for cooperative play versus the AI.

The Multiplayer games have to be posted publicly because they function on an entirely different format and timescale. Single Player games run through their entire length in a week or two. Multiplayer games take months or even years before they finish. No one would even remember the start of the game if we waited until the end of the event to post anything. Furthermore, Multiplayer games are inherently collaborative in a way that Single Player against the AI is not. It's very common for more than one person to be working together on a team, and they must post about what's going on to communicate with one another. None of this factors into a Single Player game.

So yes, we could probably allow players to post reports ahead of the closing day and trust other players not to read their reports... but why create an extra unneeded problem? There's no benefit to doing so. I also believe that having reports going up at random over a period of 4-5 weeks would destroy interest in the closing day at the end of the event. Having everyone post reports at the same time on closing day is the highlight of the Epics/Adventure format.

The problem right now isn't the format. It's that we've been playing Civ4 for nine years now and run over 80 events to date. We've explored most of the gameplay that there is to explore. (I also noticed that good report writing for SP games is significantly lacking in the community right now, since there's been so much recent attention on MP instead.) If we could get another excellent empire-building strategy game to play around with, we'd see a revival of the Single Player side of things.

For the moment, I'd request that anyone taking a shot at this event follow the no-spoiler posting rules we've been using for the last 13 years.

[sunrise089]

I also believe that having reports going up at random over a period of 4-5 weeks would destroy interest in the closing day at the end of the event. Having everyone post reports at the same time on closing day is the highlight of the Epics/Adventure format.

IMHO this is a much more relevant concern than the spoiler issue considering the current state of the site. I definitely support continuing the 'reporting day' tradition. It's not exactly onerous for those who finish early to type a report in advance and wait to post it.

[Dp101]

If we could get another excellent empire-building strategy game to play around with, we'd see a revival of the Single Player side of things.

Maybe endless legend might end up fitting that bill? It just came out on steam early access and is by the same guys that made endless space, another good strategy game. The city mechanics are quite different though, so it might not fit the bill.