WW33 - Walking Dead [GAME THREAD]

[Hashoosh]

I'm unfamiliar with serial killer, and it been mentioned a few times already. Was that a game with a baddie who would win if he was left with a small number of innocents, and would take night actions to further that end?

[Azarius]

Ok Azarius I am listening. What again is your care on Rowain? So far what I see is that he is an annoying stone wall who says nothing and seems evil. I see that but that is basically just Rowain. Why does he look like a scum?

Who else looks bad to you? Besides of course every one voting for you I guess.

Mattimeo what ever man your vote just screams you do not want to say any thing new or get involved so you just slide.

Hashoosh I definitely see Catwalk as acting suspicious. But more like his serial killer game to be honest.

In a nutshell, it's the fact that he reacted to such a minor suspicion as much as he did. He refused to elaborate at all on what exactly he meant with that remark, and then comes after me for it building a case around something that never actually happened. And has stuck to it. All game long. Also, I would disagree about his evilness as a general thing. If he came across as generally unreasonable, illogical, and dishonest then I wouldn't be so dead set on lynching him. But he doesn't usually, and he is this game.



To be frank I'm having difficulties evaluating anyone else really, aside from the obvious of people making really lazy votes onto me as you pointed out. Circumstances as they are I haven't had much opportunity to examine other avenues in detail.

[Azarius]

I'm unfamiliar with serial killer, and it been mentioned a few times already. Was that a game with a baddie who would win if he was left with a small number of innocents, and would take night actions to further that end?

A serial killer is a scum on their own team. To win they need to be the last man standing. If the bandits achieve a voting majority they lose just like the village. So given how close that appears to be to happening if one is in the game, it's in their best interest to try to kill a bandit.

[Azarius]

[Jabbz]

I agree that last minute claims would be bad. That's why I've been saying claim away, if you're under pressure.

If we do end up resolving the Rowain/Azarius dispute the hard way, I'll be siding with Rowain. So I'm putting my vote back on Azarius now that he should be coming back on-line, to give him fair warning.

I would also like to hear more from Hashoosh.

[Jabbz]

At this point, I am pretty convinced that there are one or two scum pushing the Az vote, and I'm pretty comfortable with the thought that Rowaine is one of them. It may well make me a target for tomorrow, if there is a tomorrow, but such is life. I think voting Az is a good way to see us lose, as he is one of two or three people I'm pretty sure isn't scum. Zak, I don't get negative vibes from you, but I think that you are being led astray, Qg I'm thinking isn't exactly clean, and I dont know what to make of Gore.

I hope you guys stop, reread the threads, and realize that the only reason people are voting against Az is he defended me, and himself, wouldn't accept hollow warrant-less arguments against him, and now, doesn't want to admit what his role is, which for the record, no one else has done either. Rowaine has been pushing this thing since D1, and I think there is some serious maliciousness involved in that push. Best of luck to us I suppose.

[Rowain]

I hope you guys stop, reread the threads, and realize that the only reason people are voting against Az is he defended me, and himself, wouldn't accept hollow warrant-less arguments against him, and now, doesn't want to admit what his role is, which for the record, no one else has done either. Rowaine has been pushing this thing since D1, and I think there is some serious maliciousness involved in that push. Best of luck to us I suppose.

Way to spin Jabbz.

Lets see where was my vote on D1? Not on Azarius.

So lets recap the flow of actions:

1) I talk about a theory concerning zak-novice. and vote Jabbz.

2) Azarius votes me (because of said theory and demands explanation)

3) I ask him if he needs an explanation and if he and you are a pair.

4) Azarius doesn't get the pair comment and still demands the theory explained

5) I explain the pair and ask himn if he really needs an explanation and why.

6) Azarius denies the pair doesn't answer the need question and keeps his vote on me. And keeps his vote on me and so on.

Since then he has still not answered the need question. He has still not explained why me speaking about a zak-novice theor was worthy a vote especially one that except a short detour to Qg stayed on me for 2 day now.
But filled the thread with pictures and BS without even trying to answer those 2 questions.(why did he need so desperately and explanation of my theory and why was my mentioning it soooo scummy that he doesn't look left or right).

[Catwalk]

Sorry, I've been travelling and I'll be quite spotty this weekend. The fact that Catwalk is trying to vote me is pretty understandable, I've fingered him. But his reasoning is laughable, claiming I've two teammates misdirecting for me. No one's mentioned me, I find it hard to believe that there's misdirecting going on.

That said, I was defended on the first day. I don't find that suspicious, given I'm both a noob and presently harder to read because of it. I'm near set on Catwalk as scum now, for that comment on teammates (no need to misdirect if nothing's been directed) which could apply to almost anyone who hasn't been voted.

I hope other agree with me on a Catwalk lynch

(unless he's usually this crazy, in which case I apologize, I don't know your tells either )

I think you're misrepresenting me here. I'm not suspecting you because you haven't posted much, but because you have had little to no suspicion pointed your way for not posting much. Deflecting attention is exactly what I mean by noone mentioning you. I think you stick out among everyone else for having received little attention, and I find that quite suspicious. There's nothing crazy about noticing that about you. Similar to how novice and Meiz didn't throw suspicion at each other all of last game, except now there's a team of 3 keeping the winds blowing in a different direction.

Repeating myself ad nauseam, I think the Azarius bandwagon is a pot that's way easy to keep stirring. That's exactly what scum want. Rowain, do you disagree that Azarius tends to be a little high-strung about defending himself? This looks a lot like his town persona. I'll try to reread through the whole debacle today, though.

[Mattimeo]

General lack of anything happening strongly indicates to me that scum are exceedingly happy with Azarius and Rowain bashing at each other and everyone else agreeing to bash on one or the other. Strong town leans on Azarius from that, lesser on Rowain (low chance of scum exceedingly confident of getting the other lynched).
Worst part is, the only actual 'out of character' I'm getting from either of them is Azarius' fragmented, image-heavy responses. Core reasoning seems pretty damn standard.

Who else has votes? Catwalk? His explanation for low activity is acceptable, his logic doesn't seem too bad, and zak's main point against him appears to be "making a D1 pressure vote rather than noting that it's LyLo" in a situation where it's *really* not immediately apparent that it has the potential to actually be LyLo - D2 of a 13 player game; 9 people alive with a maximum 3 wolves.

And then GoreRipper comes in and dismisses my vote for him, based on his actions yesterday and clear wagon-jumping today, as "not wanting to get involved" with the clear smokescreen? That's not a defence, that's "hey, look over there at that convenient distraction that I'd really like everyone to pay attention to!"

...on the other hand, if it didn't have the possibility of being LyLo with an over-enthusiatic vig taking shots, I'd probably be all for lynching Azarius, with his 'quote entire posts to respond with one line/stupid image' schtick, which is getting pretty damn old. Even with the meta-tell of "complete lack of discussion while he's on the scaffold" going for him.

[zakalwe]

I appreciate you letting me know that your vote is already set. This saves me the time I would have used responding to your previous statements.

This isn't exactly the reaction I was hoping for. I'm just telling you up front that I view Rowain as more likely to be innocent than you. That's not to say that defending yourself will be futile, but you need to give me some alternatives.

You and Rowain have pretty much painted yourselves into opposing corners, and if you're both town, I don't think we can rebound if we mislynch someone else. So lynching you is starting to feel like the least risky play, from a purely pragmatic point of view.

Yes, if we enter night with 4-3-1 it looks bad, but if everybody keeps their cool, it is at least possible. We still have the doctor, there can be crossfire from the SK, etc.

So with all of this in mind, it would have been helpful if you had at least given us a secondary preference, or some thoughts on where to go from here. If you're town, your only contribution in this game is to insist that Rowain is guilty, and if you're wrong about that, then it's all for nothing.

Well, this probably came across as really sanctimonious, but I don't have time to rewrite it. Later, all.